From proto37@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 03:35:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 60893 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2007 11:35:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2007 11:35:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.129) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2007 11:35:48 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n18.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2007 11:35:08 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2007 11:35:08 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2007 11:35:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:35:07 -0000 To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.129 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 4.224.204.162 From: "proto37" Subject: Katherine Tingley at Prison (1899) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=_ls4DgHMOHejh4vWPVODy1em_A3wzVuEysPoV2f0oC1P3w X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39629 Katherine Tingley at a Prison (1899) Conditions might be different at=20 prisons now days, but this is some of the=20 sort of thing Tingley and early=20 Theosophists did on their "World=20 Crusade" in the late 1890's. (Many of the=20 prominent members associated with=20 Blavatsky became part of this group, and=20 their writings can be found in "Universal=20 Brotherhood" magazine, "The Path," etc.=20 recently put online at TUP (including=20 Crosbie): "HELP FOR PRISONERS" On Tuesday morning, May 30,=20 Katherine A. Tingley and her party visited=20 the penitentiary, close to Salt Lake City, in=20 pursuance of one of the objects of the=20 International Brotherhood league, viz. -=20 The helping of those in prison. The party=20 included Mrs. Cleather, Miss Atkinson,=20 Messrs. F.M. Pierce, W.T. Hanson, I.L.=20 Harris, H.T. Patterson, B. Crump, and three=20 local members, Mrs. Ferguson and=20 Messrs. Turton and Roberts. After the prelude to "Lohengrin" on the=20 chapel organ, the Leader and Foundress=20 of the League spoke in effect as follows:=20=20 "We believe that every man is divine, and=20 that you are no more condemned than any=20 one else. There are many in the world=20 today who would be better for the=20 discipline you are undergoing. It may=20 seem harsh to you at times, but if you are=20 wise enough to use your opportunities=20 here, avoiding in your thoughts all the=20 gruesome and gloomy aspects of life, you=20 will learn a great lesson. Many of you are=20 in your present difficulties simply because=20 you have not understood yourselves. I=20 would give ten years of my life to have ten=20 years here with you. As you have rules=20 here so I have to have them in my=20 organization, not for those who keep them=20 but for those who break them, and I have=20 enormous sympathy with the officers of=20 these institutions, because of the=20 difficulties I have to deal with myself. But if=20 you can take the right attitude with them=20 you will command their respect. Don't=20 think of your prison walls, but imagine you=20 are in a hospital. All of you have beautiful=20 thoughts at times, and I believe that you=20 have the possibilities of heroes in you if=20 only the right note is struck in your hearts.=20=20 Remember that all that is unpleasant in you=20 belongs to your lower nature - the only=20 Devil we believe in. I suffer more than you=20 do, in a sense, because I have to stand up=20 before the world and endure attacks and=20 misrepresentations, and I feel today that I=20 would be glad to be in here for a time away=20 from harsh and hard humanity. Before we=20 can hope for better times we must=20 eliminate creeds and dogmas, such as the=20 idea of being born in sin. If you dwell all=20 the time on this idea how are you ever=20 going to rise out of your present=20 conditions? Two things cannot occupy the=20 same place at the same time, hence the=20 lower thoughts should be kept out by the=20 higher. Imagination is no fairy tale but a=20 real power. Keep on imagining you are=20 noble, and good, and straight, and you will=20 rise above your past and your lower nature.=20=20 Forget the past. I am sick and tired fo the=20 'pity and compassion' attitude, and the=20 long sermons on 'sin.' Stand up like brave=20 boys and do your duty, and you will make=20 men respect you and break down the=20 fetters of the past. I have known men's=20 lives changed in the twinkling of an eye by=20 these ideas. Realize the power of your=20 thoughts, which can affect the minds of=20 others for good or evil. Some of the boys=20 I helped at Montauk have gone home with=20 these ideas in their hearts. Some of them=20 were true heroes and are now spreading=20 the teachings of Universal Brotherhood.=20=20 Now, no doubt many of you spend some=20 time in thinking of the boys who are out;=20=20 but do you ever think of the Cubans, the=20 soldiers, and others, who starved and=20 suffered, who were persecuted in the=20 name of religion, and have no homes=20 [[Spainish-Am. war]]? Many who are now=20 tramping around the country would benefit=20 by the discipline you are under.=20 "Two years ago I spoke to a desperate=20 character in Folsom prison for life. He was=20 a train wrecker and had killed many=20 people. He was a sad sight - one eye and=20 one arm gone, besides other injuries.=20=20 Through his one eye I saw his soul and I=20 told him of the splendid energy he had=20 misused, and I reminded him of his=20 affection for his mother and for animals.=20=20 He realized the truth of what I said and now=20 he is a completely changed man; he=20 spreads these ideas among his comrades;=20=20 and he now declares that he would not=20 take his liberty if it were offered." Mr. I.L. Harris said there were many in=20 the world who were a hundred times more=20 in prison than those present, who suffered=20 a great deal more, and saw no way to free=20 themselves from their cursed fetters. Mr. F.M. Pierce said that the only=20 difference between one man and another=20 was the proportion of right and wrong that=20 he did. We are all in life's school, and he=20 had come to be thankful for the hard=20 knocks he had received. How could we=20 become good soldiers without discipline?=20=20 We stand a little further along the road=20 every day, until in time we can become a=20 law unto ourselves and be joyous, happy=20 men. The meeting was necessarily brief and=20 the men were most anxious to hear more.=20=20 When the party went to the prison they=20 were quite surprised to find an audience=20 who were quite familiar with Theosophy=20 owing to the work done by the local Lodge=20 of Universal Brotherhood. - One of the Party ("Universal Brotherhood" magazine, July, 1899, pp. 205-6) ------------------------ From proto37@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 03:39:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 86847 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2007 11:39:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2007 11:39:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n32c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.10) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2007 11:39:02 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.86] by n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2007 11:36:23 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2007 11:36:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:36:21 -0000 To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.10 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 4.224.204.162 From: "proto37" Subject: Re: Olcott X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=BOGr3OAU65MtUVGcXGTiBhNM_TITE1ZnkJR8hSyWi3CfVg X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39630 Re: Normal people, not saints... "Thumbs up" on those thoughts, MKR: - jake j. >1b. Re: Olcott Posted by: "M K Ramadoss" mkr777@gmail.com=20 Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:03 pm ((PST)) >Thanks for the URL. >For a long time I was looking for an letter HSO wrote to A O Hume=20 which stuck in my mind for decades. I found it in the URL. Here is=20 the quote: >"These were your words to me and others last year; but if you will=20 only reflect for one moment what it is to transform a worldly man, such as=20 I=20 was in 1874 --- a man of clubs, drinking parties, mistresses, a man=20 absorbed in all sorts of worldly public and private undertakings and=20 speculations=20 --- into that purest, wisest, noblest and most spiritual of human beings=20 --- a BROTHER, you will cease to wonder, or rather you will wonder,=20 how I=20 could ever have struggled out of the swamp at all, and how I could=20 have ever succeeded in gaining the firm straight road." >When one reads this, and also keeps in mind the personality of HPB,=20 who=20 was an unconventional cigarette smoking, meat eater, the choice of=20 individuals chosen by the Founders to launch modern theosophical=20 movement simply=20 shows that the two were selected as they were best suited for the=20 enormous=20 task on hand and not selected by traditional external worldly=20 standards that=20 most of us are used to judge people. >It looks to me that we need a lot more of fired up theosophical=20 enthusiasts who are doers and can actively and aggressively further=20 the objects of theosophy, not those who lead a saintly life and try to demonstrate=20 it=20 to the world at large and talk and parrot the existing writings in=20 print=20 to a captive audience. >Any ideas? >mkr. -------------------- From Drpsionic@aol.com Thu Feb 01 05:04:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Drpsionic@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 33551 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2007 13:04:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2007 13:04:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2007 13:04:00 -0000 Received: from Drpsionic@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.cd5.725e51f (14501) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:03:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:03:35 EST To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5036 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Drpsionic@aol.com Subject: Re: Theos-World Blavatsky movie X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=755162; y=vbHlwT4yaos88LRS_x1baPk4mNKGVNUvlB0f3Jq_u-8WmvTw0w X-Yahoo-Profile: c_cosimano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39631 In a message dated 2/1/2007 12:03:27 AM Central Standard Time, silva_cass@yahoo.com writes: Anyone know anything about this? Cass Sounds like a super yawner. Chuck the Heretic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Drpsionic@aol.com Thu Feb 01 05:04:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Drpsionic@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75980 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2007 13:03:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2007 13:03:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2007 13:03:20 -0000 Received: from Drpsionic@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.cb4.a2cb868 (14501) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:01:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:01:51 EST To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5036 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.35 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Drpsionic@aol.com Subject: Re: Theos-World Olcott X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=755162; y=2n4ANV1ytUHgXac5HkbNxfouqRi8zWbTaiKuuAAQHj3ciktV7w X-Yahoo-Profile: c_cosimano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39632 In a message dated 1/31/2007 11:33:02 PM Central Standard Time, silva_cass@yahoo.com writes: It looks to me that we need a lot more of fired up theosophical enthusiasts who are doers and can actively and aggressively further the objects of theosophy, not those who lead a saintly life and try to demonstrate it to the world at large and talk and parrot the existing writings in print to a captive audience. George Orwell wrote, "Saints are not healthy for humans." My father said, "A saint is an idiot with a press agent." I say, "There is nothing about a saint that can't be cured by throwing a pie in his face." Chuck the Heretic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Drpsionic@aol.com Thu Feb 01 05:09:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Drpsionic@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12662 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2007 13:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2007 13:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m17.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.207) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2007 13:06:41 -0000 Received: from Drpsionic@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.bd6.fb4024a (14501) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:05:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:05:53 EST To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5036 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Drpsionic@aol.com Subject: Re: Theos-World Katherine Tingley at Prison (1899) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=755162; y=oOypQTqI2FzYTXDASYB-uFqzjsuLkxcGBLkpx4gcTq31GIO9vQ X-Yahoo-Profile: c_cosimano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39633 Why did they let her out? Chuck the Heretic (I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist it.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mkr777@gmail.com Thu Feb 01 06:12:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: mkr777@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 98589 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2007 14:11:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2007 14:11:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nz-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.162.230) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2007 14:11:32 -0000 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id o37so543685nzf for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.241.3 with SMTP id o3mr3883072qbh.1170339030989; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.125.10 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 06:10:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:10:30 -0600 To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.162.230 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: "M K Ramadoss" Subject: Re: Theos-World Blavatsky on Violent Video games X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243096636; y=QYLO-tj875VbCU-UTAdXUXoxJeABPJvfAS00AIcTubClofh9rvM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39634 Violence and sex sells. No way to stop it. mkr On 1/31/07, Drpsionic@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/31/2007 9:37:06 PM Central Standard Time, > samblo@cs.com > writes: > > I hope there never was such a game played or invented or manufactured. > John > > There will be. > > Chuck the Heretic > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rbrtmlltt@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 18:06:25 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 65068 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 02:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m37a.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 02:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.52) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 02:05:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n23.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2007 02:05:46 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2007 02:05:46 -0000 X-Sender: rbrtmlltt@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 25071 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 02:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 02:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web50510.mail.yahoo.com) (206.190.38.247) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 02:03:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 67538 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 02:03:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: QVUknboVM1mmouDRpscTwSYYZxqEP5EaL77XgjKfB7kNKdgmWd56tNHfP3m5SYPijOwZ9F849C34dmVMmji_.Nn0gz13D243jWCS5.u6Cz9jP843vVlm1EE57iT1Gxko1a638jmnIo7ZbOA- Received: from [216.51.106.121] by web50510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:03:13 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 18:03:13 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <193586.67521.qm@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.38.247 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Robert Mallette Subject: Re:Blavatsky movie X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=294877166; y=dQBginHRQirXKQ5IHZulUNLkqSaIOnlSAS35pDLAPX-S7DPE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: eldon_tucker via web; 02 Feb 2007 02:05:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39635 Continue the Great Work. I will not comment at this time. Wisdom is never to quick to judge. We are on a divine journey, therefore should we not ever be WATCHFUL? --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39636 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39637 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39638 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39639 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39640 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39641 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39642 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39643 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39644 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39645 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39646 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39647 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39648 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39649 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39650 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39651 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39652 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39653 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39654 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39655 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39656 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39657 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From proto37@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 06:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: proto37@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70212 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.217) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 14:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72017 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qQI8sRAVM1lChtgbrSTOIm9655xn5RtdJBbFHCtnLv_sY3M_z2.LS8AE9C1_tURg8c_un10n_TWdHsSqqrxBtPoU9xhjH_GgX3ON8LbmDNsGbPYuQ4nkkNoHbBjeK8AcWtj4x1vN_.JuTS0- Received: from [4.131.49.29] by web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:10:22 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:10:22 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <953856.70654.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.207.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Mark Jaqua Subject: Organ Transplants in Fohat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130276474; y=XGc3T3MbPyTxhR-w0PfmFV1fUD3-_sP14ZqBEx3GqAkPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: proto37 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39658 Organ Transplants in Fohat There is an excellent article in Winter, 2006 FOHAT on organ translplants, "To live, to Live, to LIVE! - Organ Transplants and Cellular Memory" by Rogelle Pelletier. Its probably the best theosophical treatment of the issue to date. The "Frankenstein" story and myth may well come from some racial memory of such from Atlantean times, and now in our times. Pelletier writes: "With the development of DNA screening and immuno-suppressant techniques and drugs, virtually any body part can now be transplanted." She treats the ethics of it all, cadaever harvesting, that the person is still possibly with his former body when it is being "harvested," possible obsession or possession by the ghost of the former owner of the organ - all very black magic in science, and right on the money. Blavatsky would have definitely been apalled, I don't have any doubt. (In later life, when told she may have to be operated on, she said she would never submit to it.) Its all based on the philosophy of the non-acceptance of death as a part of life, and not the traditional Buddhist view (as in the "Great Master's" letter) of life being a weary nightmare to be tolerated. The article is well worth reading. A sci-fi book by David Niven (60's, I think) "The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton" is a series of stories of a member of the gov't branch in charge of catching "organ-leggers" involved in illegal cadaver harvesting and implants in the not-so-far future. Its big business. There are warehouses of people frozen at the time of death for revival in the future, who are declared to be officially "dead" and harvested en masse. Its materialism gone mad. - jake j. --------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From tonh@xs4all.nl Sun Feb 04 12:30:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: ton.den.hartog@tonh.net X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 16672 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 20:30:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 20:30:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl) (194.109.24.32) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 20:30:07 -0000 Received: from donald64 (tonh.xs4all.nl [213.84.241.105]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l14KTTYi062760 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:29:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ton.den.hartog@tonh.net) Message-ID: <014b01c7489b$2c522460$0100000a@donald64> To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:29:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Originating-IP: 194.109.24.32 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Ton den Hartog" From: "Ton den Hartog" Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=85652351; y=CbGb722UuGAD8PMjSRYAhgA2cbe_YMU39XK7AVayw7cQiG1zCcUg X-Yahoo-Profile: tondenhartog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39659 We had a discussion on this in a mixed Theosophy group in the south of the netherlands and we agreed we really did not not give a damn whether someone was adyar or pasadenaand it felt all very foolish (and it is !). Point is that a lot of resources are wasted... Ton ----- Original Message ----- From: Anton Rozman To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena Nevertheless how much we would like to see the theosophical movement as unified and universal, the fact is that the primary intent has differentiated into multitude of separated organizations and that formally we don't have any international Theosophical Society - just a number of loosely connected or disconnected national theosophical organizations incorporated under their respective national laws. Therefore, optimistically, we are now only on a half way and on the turning point towards the re-unification. Best regards, Anton --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:45:56 AM Central Standard Time, > anton_rozman@... writes: > > I can not speak on behalf of the TS in America but the introduction > text says: "This documentary covers the history of the THEOSOPHICAL > SOCIETY in America from 1875-2000.", so it is most probably intended > to cover the history of this particular organization only. > > > > That would seem to pretty much explain it. > > One can hardly expect anything else. > > Chuck the Heretic > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From anton_rozman@yahoo.com Sun Feb 04 12:59:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: anton_rozman@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 44656 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 20:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 20:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.213) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 20:56:50 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2007 20:56:50 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2007 20:56:50 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2007 20:56:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:56:49 -0000 To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <014b01c7489b$2c522460$0100000a@donald64> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.213 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 82.192.56.78 From: "Anton Rozman" Subject: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=192242904; y=bpHRc028GDOKD2tH2gQLYourH09Ot7RkVxiFo-AWR_UySIjjFZT9 X-Yahoo-Profile: anton_rozman X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39660 I fully agree, Anton --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Ton den Hartog" wrote: > > We had a discussion on this in a mixed Theosophy group in the south=20 of the netherlands and we agreed we really did not not give a damn=20 whether someone was adyar or pasadenaand it felt all very foolish=20 (and it is !).=20 > Point is that a lot of resources are wasted...=20 >=20 > Ton >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Anton Rozman=20 > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com=20 > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:23 PM > Subject: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena >=20 >=20 >=20 > Nevertheless how much we would like to see the theosophical=20 movement=20 > as unified and universal, the fact is that the primary intent has=20 > differentiated into multitude of separated organizations and that=20 > formally we don't have any international Theosophical Society -=20 just=20 > a number of loosely connected or disconnected national=20 theosophical=20 > organizations incorporated under their respective national laws. >=20 > Therefore, optimistically, we are now only on a half way and on=20 the=20 > turning point towards the re-unification. >=20 > Best regards, > Anton >=20 > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@ wrote: > > > >=20 > > In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:45:56 AM Central Standard Time,=20 > > anton_rozman@ writes: > >=20 > > I can not speak on behalf of the TS in America but the=20 > introduction=20 > > text says: "This documentary covers the history of the=20 > THEOSOPHICAL=20 > > SOCIETY in America from 1875-2000.", so it is most probably=20 > intended=20 > > to cover the history of this particular organization only. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > That would seem to pretty much explain it. > >=20 > > One can hardly expect anything else.=20 > >=20 > > Chuck the Heretic > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From compiler@wisdomworld.org Sun Feb 04 13:49:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: compiler@wisdomworld.org X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5718 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 21:49:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.68) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 21:49:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lvs00-fl-n11.ftl.affinity.com) (216.219.253.186) by mta11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 21:49:34 -0000 Received: from [68.33.22.128] ([68.33.22.128]:49414 "EHLO wisdomworld.org") by ams011.ftl.affinity.com with ESMTP id S362185AbXBDVqq (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:46:46 -0500 Message-ID: <45C662D2.240FE2A1@wisdomworld.org> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:48:50 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 216.219.253.186 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Compiler Subject: SOME VERY IMPORTANT THEOSOPHICAL HISTORY X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=46028585; y=vXjyDDHnnU5QAutB8GBUErEWyMbkx86cVVcBcKgiP74XPj-1DHys X-Yahoo-Profile: john_compiler_wisdomworld X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39661 SOME VERY IMPORTANT THEOSOPHICAL HISTORY Based on the current conversation going on here, I hope that many readers, especially newcomers to theosophy, will find these three series of articles from THEOSOPHY magazine to be very informative and useful: (1) The Theosophical Movement (34-part series: 1920-22) (2) The Rising Cycle (13-part series: 1926-27) (3) Aftermath (10-part series: 1935) They are found in this link that goes to the 14th of 18 sections found on the "Additional" articles index page of my WisdomWorld.org web site: http://www.wisdomworld.org/additional/index.html#14 Dear newcomers to Theosophy: I sincerely do hope that my web site offers a well-rounded overall view of Theosophy and the Theosophical Movement. The 3 main links to everything on it are found below. Please know that I'm only the compiler of all the articles found on my web site; I'm not a scholar; and also that I personally do not like to take part in conversations, even though I do hope that what I present from time to time will help a little in the discussions being carried on by others. So please do not be insulted when I do not respond if someone addresses me, or addresses anything that is found in any of the articles on my web site; I leave that for others to deal with if they want to -- whether pro, con, neutral, friendly or unfriendly. These are the 3 Index pages on my Theosophical web site -- which contains 1,488 articles from THEOSOPHY magazine: http://www.wisdomworld.org http://www.wisdomworld.org/setting.html http://www.wisdomworld.org/additional/index.html And this is the link to what I very personally consider my "UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD" project for all of humanity -- one that I have envisioned myself for the last 26 years and am trying hard to get going. It's the most updated version of my economic proposal to humanity, a practical project to help our suffering world that I also consider to be Theosophical. In it you will find a new and unique, but mostly unknown, economic system model that might be able to put an end to involuntary poverty on earth. How? It presents a way to fully finance everything of importance that is needed in every nation. Because of this it's well worth pointing to. Please note that, for strategic reasons, of wanting it to have the best chance of being accepted by all peoples worldwide, no matter what their religious, philosophical, and scientific beliefs are, I've put it on a completely different web site; it contains no mention of, or link to, the Theosophy and the Theosophical Movement that is presented on my WisdomWorld.org web site: http://www.PublicAndPrivateEnterprise.org John DeSantis (Compiler) ------- From Drpsionic@aol.com Sun Feb 04 15:32:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Drpsionic@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 4273 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 23:31:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 23:31:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m14.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.204) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 23:31:23 -0000 Received: from Drpsionic@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.d53.186c838 (30740) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:31:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:31:15 EST To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5036 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.204 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Drpsionic@aol.com Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=755162; y=c5i-q__EJhSwGvhB8DM_dNv836rzOZqWi1h91xfCC3VYhBZ7_g X-Yahoo-Profile: c_cosimano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39662 In a message dated 2/4/2007 2:29:04 PM Central Standard Time, anton_rozman@yahoo.com writes: Therefore, optimistically, we are now only on a half way and on the turning point towards the re-unification The First Object says to form the nucleus of the brotherhood of humanity, not that the brotherhood is already accomplished, or even that the nucleus of it even exists yet. Chuck the Heretic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Drpsionic@aol.com Sun Feb 04 15:34:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Drpsionic@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34280 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 23:34:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.68) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 23:34:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m27.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.8) by mta11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 23:34:01 -0000 Received: from Drpsionic@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.c32.bc7ed3f (30740) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:33:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:33:13 EST To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5036 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Drpsionic@aol.com Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=755162; y=G2dfXnh5FWhMWnPqJyxs1TT2hnpBjVkTwsbuVqv4HogoNp8VwQ X-Yahoo-Profile: c_cosimano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39663 In a message dated 2/4/2007 2:33:52 PM Central Standard Time, tonh@xs4all.nl writes: We had a discussion on this in a mixed Theosophy group in the south of the netherlands and we agreed we really did not not give a damn whether someone was adyar or pasadenaand it felt all very foolish (and it is !). Point is that a lot of resources are wasted... You are probably right in that. I think if you read these groups you will find that a lot of folks exist in the past, continually rehashing who did what or said what back in the relative stone age of the 19th century, rather than looking the future and thinking about what can be done. There is more than enough to argue about with that. Chuck the Heretic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Drpsionic@aol.com Sun Feb 04 15:35:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Drpsionic@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47305 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m28.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.9) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from Drpsionic@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.cc4.9e0c69a (30740) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:34:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:34:36 EST To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5036 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Drpsionic@aol.com Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=755162; y=mE9U51l_UDMiVrFtNXn0cns7O0GnXEW7f3xhBfMHsyeZJ5sMRg X-Yahoo-Profile: c_cosimano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39664 In a message dated 2/4/2007 3:02:34 PM Central Standard Time, anton_rozman@yahoo.com writes: I fully agree, Anton Oh no!! There are two Theosophists agreeing with a third one!! This will never do! Our image is in mortal peril!!!!! Chuck the Heretic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From silva_cass@yahoo.com Sun Feb 04 17:45:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: silva_cass@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75799 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 01:42:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2007 01:42:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web52110.mail.yahoo.com) (206.190.48.113) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 01:42:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 68453 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2007 01:42:46 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Z_xkypwVM1nUE0M8DC7Dm0eLdncYmlr2dyWx6R7uJb9pTP_DRXaQ2eiRqpq9BWXps5C9ArH92.nhBMWIidIlFprZUjbHcmjJnVpM7Hz0lwBvqilBInYj_4JiWA.BdsleSjclGRadwBBde_k- Received: from [220.237.47.14] by web52110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:42:45 PST Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:42:45 -0800 (PST) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <255071.68427.qm@web52110.mail.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.48.113 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Cass Silva Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=203519531; y=c8ulW_qYF1d-uWRaoFot-oX8I5kavj9RJsVOtbuKRd_Rdr-28g X-Yahoo-Profile: silva_cass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39665 Do you really think we can put Humpty Dumpty together again? Cass Anton Rozman wrote: Nevertheless how much we would like to see the theosophical movement as unified and universal, the fact is that the primary intent has differentiated into multitude of separated organizations and that formally we don't have any international Theosophical Society - just a number of loosely connected or disconnected national theosophical organizations incorporated under their respective national laws. Therefore, optimistically, we are now only on a half way and on the turning point towards the re-unification. Best regards, Anton --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:45:56 AM Central Standard Time, > anton_rozman@... writes: > > I can not speak on behalf of the TS in America but the introduction > text says: "This documentary covers the history of the THEOSOPHICAL > SOCIETY in America from 1875-2000.", so it is most probably intended > to cover the history of this particular organization only. > > > > That would seem to pretty much explain it. > > One can hardly expect anything else. > > Chuck the Heretic > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From nenqueteba2000@yahoo.com.ar Sun Feb 04 18:54:39 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1537 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 02:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m40a.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2007 02:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 02:54:35 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2007 02:54:31 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2007 02:54:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2007 02:54:31 -0000 X-Sender: nenqueteba2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1420 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 01:45:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2007 01:45:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32907.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.69.84) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 01:45:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 72069 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2007 01:44:31 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VScVOScVM1kDraUVY5XqA1vMzO1ksWTL0iMDFrWvRyVl5worl9ONIybLWLh8JS5S5j7UxitEFfiX05THDu3RGQ5E5ZqwzSjTo7Kc8PS6WrTFdnOfuIRE8KlDC.73ddpuQA2V1_drlbkpAQ-- Received: from [201.232.105.173] by web32907.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 22:44:31 ART Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:44:31 -0300 (ART) To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <159888.63751.qm@web32907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.191.69.84 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Noel vasco Subject: Video... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=208108019; y=FJlCOTa3gSqRQJtwpXgnfIdZ4SYR4EL-MlklyYlsN7n4cMxuJmCPUCs X-Yahoo-Profile: nenqueteba2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: eldon_tucker via web; 05 Feb 2007 02:54:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39666 Just one thing. =20=20=20 United States is not Am=E8rica. The Video is on the history of the TS (Ad= yar) at the United States, It`s not the history of T.S in Am=E8rica, that m= ust cover Brazil, Cuba, Mexico, Argentina etc... =20=09=09 --------------------------------- Pregunt=E1. Respond=E9. Descubr=ED. Todo lo que quer=EDas saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est=E1 en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). Probalo ya!=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Drpsionic@aol.com Sun Feb 04 19:25:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Drpsionic@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 54712 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 03:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m37a.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2007 03:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m17.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.207) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 03:25:06 -0000 Received: from Drpsionic@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.ced.8cd6f24 (14457) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:25:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:24:59 EST To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5036 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Drpsionic@aol.com Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=755162; y=jJllI7r8qs2TwWoId5KurDA6yAseQ_US3gfyEgFFhnzCEQRDQw X-Yahoo-Profile: c_cosimano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39667 In a message dated 2/4/2007 7:47:10 PM Central Standard Time, silva_cass@yahoo.com writes: Do you really think we can put Humpty Dumpty together again? Cass Probably not. Each of the parts is enjoying attacking the other too much. Chuck the Heretic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Drpsionic@aol.com Sun Feb 04 19:26:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Drpsionic@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 8351 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 03:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2007 03:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m16.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.206) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 03:26:01 -0000 Received: from Drpsionic@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.c48.ac523c5 (14457) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:25:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:25:49 EST To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5036 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.206 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Drpsionic@aol.com Subject: Re: Theos-World Video... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=755162; y=j-fjEIY8lfUTOZFfz98hoQoEkuj0-mmFtqFqkheK-TIX2RuBog X-Yahoo-Profile: c_cosimano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39668 =20 In a message dated 2/4/2007 8:55:41 PM Central Standard Time,=20=20 nenqueteba2000@yahoo.com.ar writes: United States is not Am=E8rica. It is to us. =20 Chuck the Heretic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mkr777@gmail.com Sun Feb 04 20:42:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: mkr777@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 4121 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 04:42:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2007 04:42:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nz-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.162.225) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 04:42:45 -0000 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id o37so1542521nzf for ; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.156.3 with SMTP id d3mr9963641qbe.1170650565166; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.125.10 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:42:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:42:45 -0600 To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.162.225 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: "M K Ramadoss" Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243096636; y=2_djPXgnClKCLDN4GlEWVwLSFTjTMH1eXFK1xyqXl8tWsa6lj4s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39669 Organizations and control go hand in hand. Welcome to Internet. That is why organizations shun all independent internet maillists. theosophical enthusiasts can now talk what we want without aligning with one organization or none. I once heard that years ago there was a subtle unsuccessful attempt by one of the organizatons to get control of the first theosophical maillist on internet. mkr On 2/4/07, Drpsionic@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/4/2007 7:47:10 PM Central Standard Time, > silva_cass@yahoo.com writes: > > Do you really think we can put Humpty Dumpty together again? > Cass > > Probably not. > > Each of the parts is enjoying attacking the other too much. > > Chuck the Heretic > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From anton_rozman@yahoo.com Sun Feb 04 21:58:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: anton_rozman@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 77339 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 05:58:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.68) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2007 05:58:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.56) by mta11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 05:58:39 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n27.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2007 05:58:39 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2007 05:58:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:58:39 -0000 To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <255071.68427.qm@web52110.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.56 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 82.192.56.78 From: "Anton Rozman" Subject: Theos-World Re: Adyar and Pasadena X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=192242904; y=3Aaf3__-WRtnRLY6k_C2OrDrz3U7VeUNUpZ3tWCkqCmHJEhkOnez X-Yahoo-Profile: anton_rozman X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39670 Cass, There is no need to put anything together but just to collaborate=20 (among those who are willing to do so) on concrete projects to=20 promote the knowledge of Theosophy in the world - re-unite under the=20 purpose of the theosophical movement.=20 Best regards, Anton --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva wrote: > > Do you really think we can put Humpty Dumpty together again? > Cass >=20 > Anton Rozman wrote: >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > Nevertheless how much we would like to see the theosophical=20 movement=20 > as unified and universal, the fact is that the primary intent has=20 > differentiated into multitude of separated organizations and that=20 > formally we don't have any international Theosophical Society -=20 just=20 > a number of loosely connected or disconnected national theosophical=20 > organizations incorporated under their respective national laws. >=20 > Therefore, optimistically, we are now only on a half way and on the=20 > turning point towards the re-unification. >=20 > Best regards, > Anton >=20 > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@ wrote: > > > >=20 > > In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:45:56 AM Central Standard Time,=20 > > anton_rozman@ writes: > >=20 > > I can not speak on behalf of the TS in America but the=20 > introduction=20 > > text says: "This documentary covers the history of the=20 > THEOSOPHICAL=20 > > SOCIETY in America from 1875-2000.", so it is most probably=20 > intended=20 > > to cover the history of this particular organization only. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > That would seem to pretty much explain it. > >=20 > > One can hardly expect anything else.=20 > >=20 > > Chuck the Heretic > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 > --------------------------------- > Expecting? 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Mail Beta. >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From leonmaurer@aol.com Sun Feb 04 23:16:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: LeonMaurer@aol.com X-Apparently-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75258 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 07:16:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.68) by m37a.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2007 07:16:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 07:16:45 -0000 Received: from LeonMaurer@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id o.c88.9b8c42b (43931); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 02:13:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 02:13:55 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 310 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 From: leonmaurer@aol.com Subject: Re: [jcs-online] Re: The External Image as Implicit Self Awareness? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4099972; y=VeZBKY2nr95OSKeCmqkrC02tcBeSh0XYZ2mfbmtJJ7ersfUtMok X-Yahoo-Profile: leonmaurer1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 39671 Here's another good argument for the ABC model of visual perception based o= n=20 fundamental principles coupled with the sciences of Superstring/M-branes an= d=20 the holographic paradigm of Bohm-Pribram, etc. -- contending with another=20 scientific materialist's foot-in-mouth nonsens