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Jul 28, 2012 07:55 AM
by M. Sufilight

A few views...

I do not...not initially.

An example to consider is the book "Mahatma I + II" by Brian Grattan, who would like people to think that he is Simon Peter - disciple of Jesus. And he writes about Blavatsky, Alice. Bailey, Theosophy, Vywamus (the channeler), Janet McClure (channeler) etc., etc, Ascended Master doctrines --- and who promises a lot of things - and predicts that we will have MORE nuclear activity on this planet (!!!) and other wierd ideas.
Of course Bruce is not Brian Grattan, but on the other hand...too much narrow-minded thinking will never help the planet.
Sorry if I sound a bit blunt, in my formulations. But I do mean well.

The NDE of the author might however be genuine enough - but as I see it on a lower level.

I would ask the author: 
Why not give the book away for free - so to help his favorite Jesus spread the measse of the "good" Gospel?

And when he accept re-incarnation - he will have to accept the doctrine of Karma - And if he only foreward this doctrine superficially he will - to a certain extend -  be doing his followers a dis-service. The Law of Karma has to be understood deeply else the world-view will not hold its waters - and - work might be wasted.

Christianity is almost the only religion on the planet which promotes a Monotheistic outlook on life, with a personal God, who are able to be angry and throw people into an eternal hell. (And is Therefore no doubt a Fobia inducing Cult based on mere belief and Priesztly Dogmas, which one may not oppose).
And not a Non-Dualistic one.

I would suggest that the author considered the Science of Subtle Mind Control (See Steve Hassan: Combatting Cult Mind Control", and "William Sargant: Battle for the Mind", or Margareth Singer "Cults in our Midst") as being important - before he gathers too many followers around himself - seeking to keep them into a Sectarian narrow-minded mind-set (no matter how unwillingly). Science is more important the mere belief --- or perhaps even mere fanaticism.

On the early Christian and the Ebionites and Pythagoreans - I would try the followiing words by Blavatsky and seek to confirm or reject her views through related scientific references on the same.

Isis Unveiled Vol. II, p. 127, 143, and 181-183

I do respect NDE, because I am myself one of its many "victims" (positively meant)

An example: The NDE portal:

I do hope that this might be useful...

M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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   I trust this person:


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     Titulating. Thomas Didymus (the "twin" bro ther of Jesus) also spent time in So. America where a Spanish Chronicler recorded the history his arrival, and encounterswith the Indian tribes, his miracles, and oth er pri me events. Besides India and the other places. 


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  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:32:02 AM 

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  "Doubting Thomas" Never Doubted Because 

  He Never Existed!!! 

  Wikipedia tells us: 


  Saint Thomas the Apostle, also called Doubting Thomas, or Didymus, was one of 

  the Twelve Apostles of Jesus. He is perhaps best known for disbelieving Jesus' 

  Resurrection when first told of it, then proclaiming "My Lord and my God" on 

  seeing Jesus....He was perhaps the only Apostle who went outside the Roman 

  Empire to preach the Gospel. He also crossed the largest area, which includes 

  Persia, India and China....Andrea del Verrocchio's sculpture showing the 

  incredulity of St. Thomas. In Thomas' best known appearance in the New 

  Testament, John 20:24-29, he doubts the resurrection of Jesus and demands to 

  touch Jesus' wounds before being convinced. Caravaggio's painting, The 

  Incredulity of Saint Thomas (illustration above), depicts this scene. This story 

  is the origin of the term Doubting Thomas. After seeing Jesus alive (the Bible 

  never states whether Thomas actually touched Christ's wounds), Thomas professed 

  his faith in Jesus, exclaiming "My Lord and my God!"; on this account he is also 

  called Thomas the Believer. 


  See this beautiful painting at:\ 


  Based on what C.W. Leadbeater wrote about the Apostles, this scene in the New 

  Testament never happened because Thomas never existed..... 


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