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Re: theos-talk The THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY and its descendants viewed as sects and cults by many

Mar 11, 2012 07:59 AM
by MKR

No doctrine is an article of faith when theosophy was introduced to the
world and it is up to the individual to discover the laws of nature and
functioning of the man and universe. HPB herself never wanted any dogma to
have anything to do with theosophy. Of course there is some discussion on
these topics on theosophical network in their website as well as facebook.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:49 AM, M. Sufilight

> **
> Dear friends
> My views are:
> More videos from Dan Smolla and friends in Theosophical Society Adyar...
> I dear say: Keep em' coming...Great work by Dan Smolla and friends in
> Adyar. I thank you from my heart.
> Here are a few more links...
> Dan Smolla, librarian at the Henry S. Olcott Memorial Library of the
> Theosophical Society, interviews Vicente Hao Chin (President of
> Theosophical Society in the Philippines) about how he became a theosophist.
> How I Became a Theosophist Vicente Hao Chin Part 1
> How I Became a Theosophist Vicente Hao Chin Part 2
> A few views by M. Sufilight...:
> I find it interesting to consider the definition on what "theosophy"
> actually is defined as in the above interview.
> Originally the doctrines on Karma and Reincarnation was never made an
> article of faith in - an Absolutely Non-Sectarian Theosophical Society.
> Blavatsky also said this. The above Mr. Vicente Hao Chin seem to have a
> tendency to forget this ( - A
> Theosophy Study Course is offered - although one claim to be
> non-sectarian...). But maybe I misunderstand it all???
> I write this just seeking to help all of those who are interested in one
> of the main original objects....given here in the below. Maybe som
> compassionate soul will be kind and help me and others out on this.
> H. P. Blavatsky wrote very interestingly about the Theosophical Society:
> "The chief aim of the Founder of the Eclectic Theosophical School was one
> of the three objects of its modern successor, the Theosophical Society,
> namely, to reconcile all religions, sects and nations under a common system
> of ethics, based on eternal verities."
> .......
> "ENQUIRER. But how does Theosophy explain the common origin of man?
> THEOSOPHIST. By teaching that the root of all nature, objective and
> subjective, and everything else in the universe, visible and invisible, is,
> was, and ever will be one absolute essence, from which all starts, and into
> which everything returns. This is Aryan philosophy, fully represented only
> by the Vedantins, and the Buddhist system. With this object in view, it is
> the duty of all Theosophists to promote in every practical way, and in all
> countries, the spread of non-sectarian education. "
> .......
> "Our duty is to keep alive in man his spiritual intuitions. To oppose and
> counteract âafter due investigation and proof of its irrational
> natureâbigotry in every form, religious, scientific, or social, and cant
> above all, whether as religious sectarianism or as belief in miracles or
> anything supernatural. What we have to do is to seek to obtain knowledge of
> all the laws of nature, and to diffuse it. To encourage the study of those
> laws least understood by modern people, the so-called Occult Sciences,
> based on the true knowledge of nature, instead of, as at present, on
> superstitious beliefs based on blind faith and authority. "
> (p. 3-4, 43-44, 48, 2nd ed., 1890 )
> A short note: ---- The last quoted paragraph is quite important - compared
> to the Anti-cult psychology teachings on Subtle Miind Control and how to
> avoid it - and avoid Cult beahavior. That is - to spread non-sectarian
> education - as in opposition to sectarian. Sectarian theosophical groups
> (which in fact are more prevalent than one should expect) tend to promote
> merely one single author or a handful of authors - and forget the problems
> with beginner members in theosophical groups - and their level of blind
> faith and authority (towards theosophical teachers, teachers so-called),
> and what present day Anti-cult psychologists call Subtle Mind Control.
> NON-Sectarian theosophical groups clearly avoid this by teaching the
> science on Psychology (spiritual and non-spiritual) to people - a science,
> not a belief, and the science on Sublte Mind Control - and how to avoid
> Subtle persuasive techniques in Sects and Cults, all this scientifically
> forwarded, and not forwarded as a belief - or as a sectarian doctrine named
> "theosophy".
> What is it to be non-sectarian versus being sectarian as a theosophical
> society?
> What definitions are being used?
> (Try the effort of comparative studying of Sectarianism versus
> Non-Sectarianism and Compare to this movie: Ticket to Heaven (1981 - Movie
> about religious brainwashing) -
> --- I wonder
> whether theosophist children a Olcott Schools etc. etc. have similar
> although different tendencies of sectarianism? ---- Balavatsky said: "Our
> duty is to keep alive in man his spiritual intuitions." - Therefore not his
> "theosophical sectarian" intutitions...If you get my drift. Smile. - Need a
> deifnition on Intuition? - It is the Higher Self , not vague instincts or
> hunches. - See Blavatsky: Blavatsky Collected Writings, vol. XI. 253-258;
> 1889)
> ______________________
> One Dan Smolla
> Feature Favorites - Ed Abdill
> (Dan Smolla, librarian at the Henry S. Olcott Memorial Library of the
> Theosophical Society, interviews Ed Abdill (author and Vice President of
> the TS) about his favorite books.)
> Ed Abdill talks about hypothesis versus beliefs.
> And he uses a method on reading I also will recommend: --- Read less or
> only little, and think much more about what you actually read.
> An Interesting person seen from my perspective.
> (Yes....yes...Consider that you may be mistaken...Smile.)
> ______________________
> Another aspect or angle on how to promote Altruism...
> >>>>>>>
> The THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY and its descendants
> viewed as sects and cults by many and by journalists.
> <<<<<<<<
> QUESTION: How do many people today view the Theosophical Society?
> ANSWER: As a Sect or even a Cult (!!!)
> This I find to be quite problematic...
> Try the below content...
> MAD BLAVATSKY [1/6] CULT LEADER of the Dostoevsky Project - HIGH PRIESTESS
> Bolshevik Spy
> Blavatsky a Russian Spy?
> "In late 1872, Madame Blavatsky offered her services to the Director of
> the Third Section, the intelligence agency of the Russian government,
> saying that she would be useful as a secret agent because of her
> familiarity with European politics as well as her skills as a medium and
> actress: "
> I will state my own views on this Spy business:
> The following are just my views. Of course som persons would like to
> disagree.
> And how knows some might find me to be in error. But I will question them
> to
> document their views.
> - First of all the above the article has a quote (ie. "During these twenty
> years..."), which
> is not from any original letter of H. P. Blavatsky's.
> It is from a written copy. The original or just a scanned copy of
> the original has been sought by a number of researcher, but none have seen
> it.
> The article does not mention this (!)
> - Second. Such a letter might have been fabricated at the same time or much
> later with a certain agenda in mind. And if so, obviously a
> non-Blavatskyan one.
> - Third. The letter could be telling the truth, but this does not at all
> fit
> with words given by H. P. Blavatsky about herself against politics and
> even various
> other of her enemies about her. It can indeed be said that the article is
> grasping after straws, where there are none or very few to reach. But this
> is
> not as far as I read it, what the Katkov article is pretending to reveal,
> and that is
> why I protest.
> Annie Besant - as a Politician - and her War articles:
> >>>An Excerpt<<<:
> "When the war is over, I hope the influence of the Society in the various
> countries may draw the nations again more nearly together, and sure I am
> that no TheoÂsophist will allow for one moment any feeling of hatred to
> enter into his heart against any nation. It is, remember also, your duty to
> recognise the ideals which are separating the two, and to throw the whole
> of your thought and energy into those ideals for which we must ever stand -
> of justice to small states, of public faith, of public honour, and the
> recognition of international treaty obligations; and it is our duty to do
> that, because the whole future of the world depends upon the word of a
> nation becoming a matter of honour to the nation as well as to the
> individual."
> "Extract from the Presidential Address to the Theosophical Society
> delivered at Adyar, DecemÂber 26, 1914."
> M. Sufilight says:
> I think it is prefectly clear from the above, that Annie Besant revised
> the Original Programe of not involving the Theosophical Society with
> politics.
> Was she right in doing so? I think wholeheartedly NOT.
> (Try The Key to Theosophy, p. , 2nd. ed. 1890 --- page 231-232 - A
> beginners book. - also page 54-55.)
> And I will let these quotes in The Key to Theosophy be a wellmeant remark
> to those who really honestly seek to promote Altruism - andseek to follow
> the Original Programe of the Theosophical Society.
> _________________________
> M. Sufilight says more generally speaking:
> I write this from the Heart of Altruism merely seek the best for all human
> beings...
> I think - the non-sectarian aspect of the Original Theosophical Society -
> has been thrown way... way too much down the a number of
> promoters of what they call - the Original Theosophical Society (let even
> the ULT's, Pasadena TS's and Adyar TS consider this carefully in their
> hearts of altruism) or by what they call something (esoterical or Aquarian)
> which are claimed to be BASED on the Original Theosophical Society in
> 1875-1891 - (even by some claimed to be Non-Sectarian, while they - in Fact
> and Truth - forward a Sectarian doctrine - one author only doctrine as
> Primary.)
> But of course some will like to disagree with this view of mine...
> My question is how do we promote altruism - by avoiding taking a CLEAR
> OFFICIAL (non-muddled and non-blurred) stance on the fact that the Original
> Theosophical Society was Absolutely Non-Sectarian while being based on
> promoting Altruism???
> (See Constitution and Rules of the Theosophical Society, year 1890 ---
> "The Theosophical Society is absolutely unsectarian,"....."1. Any Fellow
> who shall in any way attempt to involve the Society In political disputes
> shall be immediately expelled. 2. No Fellow, Officer, or Council of the
> Theosophical Society, or of any Section or Branch thereof, shall promulgate
> or maintain any doctrines being that advanced, or advocated by the
> Society." --- --- And
> THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY: Its Origin, Plan and Aims (Circular from Doubleday
> Notebook, no. 7; year 1878 --- "From the first, the Society has been
> absolutely unsectarian and nonpolitical.").
> The Apex of Altruism - can never be an elevated level of Lack of
> Self-Criticism or Prejudiced Better-Knowingness.
> Is Altruism important to you? Or only a trifle?
> __________
> If you want to promote Altuism sincerely and open-hearted (something which
> as a consequence requires a non-sectatrian attitude) - you simply do not go
> around let people in on being deceived by - a lie.
> And you neither make them believe that you promote a Sectarian Doctrine
> named "Theosophy" (based on a handful of primary Authors, so-called) - and
> call that non-Sectarian.
> You tell the the Truth.
> The motto was and is: There is no Religion Higher Than the Truth.
> All the above are of course just my views...Then again, I might be in
> error. And will gladly welcome any altruistic input.
> Can we help each other?
> M. Sufilight
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