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Re: theos-talk Re:Fiat Lux-Good For Katinka

May 05, 2011 08:54 AM
by MKR

Thanks for the response.

Withdrawing the charter of a lodge and seizing the assets is a very serious
issue at a time when lodges are down sizing (Atlanta lodge, once a very
active one, just became a study center which only requires three members)
and when the lodge appealed the decision to the International President, it
was not rubber stamped.

Since very very rarely lodge charters were withdrawn in the 136 years of
existence of TS, and the International President not rubber stamping TSA
decision despite personal one-on-one discussion by the National President of
TSA, gives more credence to lack of solid reasons for closing a 75 year old
functioning lodge.

Closing lodges which own valuable property and seizing the assets is a
serious matter in that lodges would wonder who is next. This is all the more
so because so far TSA has not presented to the membership no concrete list
of violations of rules or bylaws with supporting facts and verifiable
evidence which justify shutting down a lodge.

Till recently TSA maintained silence under the excuse that litigation was
going on. Even after the case was withdrawn, all we have seen is vague
statements and calling the lodge to be a ârenegadeâ lodge (not a brotherly
action) and even questioning the decision of the International President.

Unless all the facts and documentation/evidence are laid on the table, no
one is going to make a leap of faith in the assumption that the TSA decision
was justified and proper.

No one needs to be reminded about all the activities from Wheaton that went
on since 2008 electioneering and its aftermath moves, which has made many
members to use the famous Russian proverb - 'Trust but verify.'

No one needs to fear Truth. Let it all come out. Earlier is better.


There is no religion higher than Truth

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Spirituality <>wrote:

> The fact is, the Orlando lodge contacted me years ago with allegations
> against the TSA. I checked with Betty Bland and since her story made more
> sense than the one told by my Orlando lodge contacts, I did nothing about
> it.
> It's true of course: I'm not a member of the TSA. However I've been a
> prominent theosophist online for years and people tell me things. Sometimes
> I do something with that info, sometimes not.
> In this case I've used it to, on two occasions, defending Betty bland and
> the tsa . If anybody thinks this suspicious, because Betty is known to be
> evil or something rediculous like that, I'd like to remind them that I very
> actively opposed the controversial proposal to change the way we vote for
> the international president.
> However, I look at each case individually and even If I look at only the
> most recent utterings from the Orlando lodge- very public utterings - Betty
> bland sounds way more rational than the Orlando lodge does.
> Do I have proof? No, but I'm sure the TSA has correspondence going back
> years over this.
> Personally I don't understand what the Orlando lodge is getting so worked
> up about. Do they need the TSA for anything? Why not just leave the TS? I'm
> certainly likely to take that step in the next few years.
> Katinka
> --- In, "t_s_theosophist" <THEOSOPHIST@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Katinka, you have made a serious allegation, as you have been prone to do
> in the past. Now all you have to do is SUBSTANTIATE This allegation with
> FACTS. Please, enlighten us all with you FACTS
> > about Orlando Lodge, not any personal member, but the Lodge itself.
> >
> >
> > How you, who are not even a member of the American Section, and have
> NEVER been to Orlando Lodge, and do NOT know any of our members came to
> possess such privy information is also a mystery. HUH???????
> >
> >
> > SO........What are your FACTS?
> >
> >
> > We are waiting for your documentation.
> >
> >
> > Rumors and heresay abound about
> > personalities and events,even attempted character asasination
> > of one of our members,
> >
> > BUT WHERE ARE YOU FACTS That Orlando Lodge is in violation of ANYTHING?
> >
> >
> > William Delahunt
> > (Lucifer)
> >
> >
> > ------------------------
> >

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