Re: theos-talk Religion,
Dec 18, 2010 09:01 PM
by John W
The Orthodox Church, based in Constantinople, split from the Roman Catholic Church in 1054, with the Pope and the Archbishop (or Patriarch) of Constantinople mutually excommunicating each other, mainly over the "filioque" affair, in the Great Schism; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism ; .
Although the Byzantine or Eastern Roman Empire based in Constantinople appeared to be militarily strong in 1054, having long survived the fall of the Western Roman Empire in the late 5th century, it was the Great Schism that finally sealed its doom the hands of the Ottoman Turks, in the 14th century (when in 1356 the Turks first landed in Europe on the Gallipoli Peninsula) and finally in 1453. Despite desperate pleas, they could not get any help from the Holy Roman Emperor and the Pope in Rome, by way of forces and supplies to help repel the Turks, because of the Great Schism.
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Subject: Re: theos-talk Religion,
Date: Sunday, 19, December, 2010, 5:09 PM
HPB has spoken what her views are about organized religions, especially the
anthromorphic Gods. Wish she were here today with today's access to Internet
and what can be done with it.
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:18 PM, thalprin <thalprin@e0cHyKipNWWtEuJjBs1etPSLd559hk26eK7oUvzvX7PfB3p3n792zXblpR8D9cWEWPYj-7yIh8ecrKxgCQ.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> There are a lot of issues related to HPB and Theosophy I think/feel are
> important to clarify and research, religion is, certainly, one of them..
> HPB came from Russia, truth is the church in Russia is orthodox and Copic -
> they have their own Pope, their own lineage AND the whole idea that she'd
> have agreed to a branch that was not only a competative 'other' a/b hadn't
> even made peace with the russian house until just a few years ago (the two
> Popes finally agreeing to try and get along) is, imo, highly suspect.
> She'd have never agreed to that, what's more her family would've given her
> no end of hassle and grief about such an insult - be esoteric, be
> unconventional a/b don't go slapping your homeland in the face and expect to
> get away with it.
> Myself, for these reasons and more, I sure don't see her ever being in
> agreement with such a move. It is as if noone remembers that HPB was Russian
> or what that meant during that time.
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