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Re: theos-talk I've retired and Ramadoss is doing the work

Aug 09, 2010 08:54 PM
by MKR

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Cass Silva <> wrote:

> I'm getting really curious about these posts - will someone post them!
> Cass
> >
> >From: Govert Schuller < <>>
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Mon, 9 August, 2010 2:27:28 PM
> >Subject: Re: theos-talk I've retired and Ramadoss is doing the work
> >
> >
> >Sorry, correction on the date: The relevant posts were on April 15, 2008.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Govert Schuller
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:47 PM
> >Subject: Re: theos-talk I've retired and Ramadoss is doing the work
> >
> >Dear Eldon,
> >
> >Thank you for the overview of the history and policies of this group.
> >
> >From it I understand that you were co-administrator with Ramdoss till last
> >month.
> >
> >
> >Can you then give us here an explanation for the disappearance of the July
> 16,
> >2008 posts ## 43528-43531?
> >
> >Govert
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: eldon_tucker
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:44 PM
> >Subject: theos-talk I've retired and Ramadoss is doing the work
> >
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >Last year, I enlisted Ramadoss to help with the administrative functions
> of
> >theos-talk, since I had less time to devote to it. We've seen him around
> since
> >November 1995 on the predecessor list theos-l and then on theos-talk when
> it was
> >started.
> >
> >In July, I fully turned over the list to his management. Currently, he is
> the
> >only list owner, and I am a regular subscriber to the list. Over the past
> year,
> >he has been on a learning curve, so there's always the change an
> occasional
> >mistake made be made, but I'm confident that he has the best of intentions
> and
> >is a dedicated advocate of free speech.
> >
> >I'll comment on the current policy of the list, which should still be in
> effect
> >until differing circumstances arise and Ramadoss decides in his best
> judgment
> >that it's time for change.
> >
> >New subscribers start off as moderated, but they get an initial email that
> tells
> >them the moderation will be in effect only for a short while, during which
> they
> >can read and observe the operation of the list. If they make an initial
> >inappropriate message or turn out to be a spammer, they can be filtered
> out at
> >that point. They're still free to post to the list, but their postings
> will be
> >reviewed and they may possibly get feedback on them before the postings go
> out.
> >Previous subscribers would be exempt from this; their subscription
> requests
> >would be recognized and they would be unmoderated right away.
> >
> >When a new subscriber is ready to fully participate, they're asked to post
> to
> >the list a description of who they are and what their background is. This
> is
> >because the only cause for removal, apart from troll-like behavior where
> the
> >list is flooded with messages and many people are offended and driven off,
> is to
> >pretend to be someone else on the list. The only exception would be if
> someone
> >lived in a country where if they fully identified themselves, they might
> be
> >subject to persecution, in which case they could use a pseudonym if they
> just
> >explained that to the list owner.
> >
> >Any subject relevant to theosophical inquiry is open for discussion, but
> >spamming, flooding the list with unrelated content, or otherwise trying to
> take
> >over the list for some other purpose would be unacceptable. If a thread is
> >repetitive, inflammatory, and only serving to anger people, and complaints
> are
> >being received, it's up to the best judgment of the person managing the
> list to
> >change the subject or end the stuck discussion. Personal emails to the
> >participants may be appropriate, but if some individuals won't respond,
> >temporarily putting them on moderated status may be appropriate until they
> stop
> >posting on the tread. This is not to say that the same issues may not
> arise
> >again in the future in some other discussion, but sometimes it's necessary
> to
> >say, "Enough, let's move on." The persons wanting to get in the last word
> on the
> >subject may be unhappy if they're the ones told to move on, but there's no
> point
> >in any discussion where everyone equally gets the last word.
> >
> >If there is something going on and someone wants to know what's really
> >happening, the most accurate approach is to get information from the
> source.
> >With Skype, it's possible to call anyone in the world for free (if they
> have
> >Skype) or inexpensively if they don't. There's no excuse for someone not
> to
> >simply clarify things by getting in touch with Ramadoss directly. I'm
> confident
> >that he's operating with the best of intentions. The only thing he may be
> guilty
> >of is having too strong an opinion on issues regarding theosophical
> politics,
> >but I don't think that a participant should think that he or she isn't
> given a
> >fair chance to share their differencing views because of that.
> >
> >
> >Which the exception of what I've mentioned - newbie moderation until
> they're
> >identified themselves and temporary moderation of a participant if he or
> she
> >won't stop on a thread that has been closed for further discussion by the
> list
> >owner - I don't believe there are any existing controls, and these two
> controls
> >are necessary on any functional list that wants to preserve free inquiry.
> >
> >Any questions about the operation of the list should be directed to
> Ramadoss. I
> >wish him success in his role as list owner, and hope that everyone will
> help him
> >as he completes his learning curve and comes to do an excellent job at
> keeping
> >the list free and fully functional.
> >
> >Eldon
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >I
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