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Re: Theos-World New Information re: Radha Burnierâs health in Dec 2007

Feb 19, 2010 06:27 PM
by Augoeides-222

Well I was Secretary twice in tenents and neighborhood assoc.'s and the minutes are for century's and are part of any normal organiztion's life blood. They are not private but are publsihed to membership and also usually posted physically at hdgtrs on the main bulletin board for the organization, Th minutes contain the legacy memory odf the formal meeting detailing what business was conducted, what motions were made to the chair, who seconded the motions, and the actual vote tallys.One can mine a treasury of bonifide information. 


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Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:10:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Theos-World New Information re: Radha Burnierâs health in Dec 2007 

New Information re: Radha Burnierâs health in Dec 2007 

Finally hold hold of the minutes of the GC meetings in 2005 to 2007 to 
inform myself of the decisions taken. As I expected, I was in for a great 
surprise, because the GC members are keeping their mouths shut and also the 
minutes are not easy to find. I do not know how many of the members have 
seen any of the minutes. 

One of the interesting statements in the minutes of meeting held on December 
25, 2007 was: 

âMiss Elvira Carbonell, who works in the Secretaryâs Office, had sent a 
letter to some members of the General Council on behalf of âseveral of us at 
Adyar who feel the need to write to members of the General Council.â She 
states that it would be preferable if the President, due to her state of 
health, did not stand for election again, and that they are in favor of the 
Vice President.â 

This is the first overt inkling of using Presidentâs health as the key 
reason for dissuading her from standing for election and an attempt to 
influence the GC council members from not nominating her, even before she 
had indicated whether she is going be a candidate or not. Without sufficient 
nominations, one cannot be candidate, and that would end the matter. 

As far as I know, Elvira is a not a high level employee or officer in the 
Secretaryâs office. Due to her working in the International Secretaryâs 
office, she must have been privy to a lot of highly confidential and 
sensitive information because all official correspondence passes through the 
office of the Secretary. 

Since the letter was sent even before the nominations were called for, it 
points to (1) she was most likely being used by others, even possibly by 
some of the International Officers and others in key positions in Adyar who 
did not want Radha Burnier to be reelected, and (2) the distinct possibility 
of a well orchestrated effort by some of the leaders and elected Officers to 
induce members to believe Radha Burnier to be sick and hence should not be 

It is also likely that the planning for the electioneering may have been 
going on for some time and possibly starting with the changes made in the 
2006 GC meeting where the rules were changed to add nominators names to the 
ballots (to influence the uninformed rookie members.) 

The minutes of the 2006 meeting does not disclose the reasons why after more 
than a century, suddenly the GC found it necessary to make the change and 
who was the real force behind the change. Adding nominators to ballot is a 
well proven trick found effective in the USA, the past leaders and elders 
trying to influence the rookie members in a subtle manner. 

The above also raises the possibility, even as early as 2006, some of the 
Officers and staff making use of the official resources of the offices in 
canvassing the support of GC members not to nominate and reelect Radha 

Furthermore, we also do not know whether any of the Officers traveled to 
various sections in the World for canvassing purposes using TS funds under 
the guise they are visiting for lecturing purposes. 

The minutes of 2007 meeting also states: 

âThe President (Radha Burnier) stated that she intended to stand for 
re-election, as she is now in good health. Dr. Dusan Zagar, who was present, 
when asked what he thought, declared that the President was now in good 

The above declaration of Dr. Zagar (a Physician) in December 2007 is a new 
piece of information that most members were not aware of. The significance 
of the above is discussed below. 

The theosophists in the USA and some of the other parts of the world were 
told of the alleged poor health of Radha Burnier, when they received letters 
from their General Secretaries of Sections urging members not to vote for 
Radha Burnier due to her poor health. The initial reaction of most ordinary 
members was sadness and surprise. The allegation of the General Secretaries 
was based simply on lay men/womenâs opinions on the health of Radha Burnier. 
Some time later, two additional independent Physicians certified her fit and 
even Dr. Zagar issued a certificate to this effect. 

The first object of TS is Brotherhood. Members expect to be treated a 
brothers and sisters in all matters especially in very important matters 
such as election. The motto of TS is - There is no Religion higher than 
Truth. Members also expect to be truthful to each other. 

When someone is a theosophical leader, who has been a long time member of 
TS, perhaps reached highest levels in the ES/ER etc. and holding the 
highest degrees in Co-Masonry, and who has been lecturing for years on the 
theosophical classics, members have high expectations. 

The 2007 GC meeting was attended, among others, by John Algeo (who was the 
opposing candidate in 2008 election), Nano Leguay, Betty Bland, and Kim 

In the communication to members from Bland trying to get Algeo elected, 
while emphasizing the poor health of Radha Burnier, did not disclose to the 
members Dr. Zagar's statement that the President was now in good health. 
Bland was present at the GC meeting and was a witness to Dr. Zagarâs 
statement and withholding this information from the members cannot be 
justified under any circumstances. Nor we have heard any comment from the 
opposing candidate to set facts right when incomplete and incorrect 
information was being fed to the members just to influence their votes. 

What is more shocking for ordinary members is that even after three well 
known physicians independently certifying to the good health of President, 
none of the GC members who told their members that she is sick did not take 
trouble to inform their members about the physiciansâ certification. 
Theosophists expect their brothers and sisters to be even handed and fair 
when dealing with important matters. Which was not done in this case. 

Members world-wide still do not know all the facts that went on behind the 
scenes in the nomination and electioneering. When future historians write 
about them. I will not be surprised if they will be better than a mystery 


There is no religion higher than truth 

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