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Re: Theos-World The original rules of the Theosophical Society, 1883

Feb 13, 2010 08:29 AM
by Drpsionic

It is not a question of caring.  It is a matter of being  realistic.  The 
world is much changed since HPB, largely because of HPB  which is why the 
mere mention of her name will send certain groups into  irrational rages.
Chuck the Heretic  

In a message dated 2/12/2010 11:08:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, writes:


I have this view my dear Heretical (smile) friend:
Those who have an  open and compassionate heart do care about the Present 
Day theosophical groups  and their offshoots and what they are doing right 
And that was what I  was referring to.

But, yes when heretic's say that they do not care,  and I and others will 
encourage by saying: Do care. Do Mind.
The Law of  Karmic Distribution is not Mocked, it never wavers and never 

The Law of Karma cannot be written on a piece of paper by medicore  humans 
and called a Law.
The fact that people keep believing in this silly  game does not make it a 
valid theosophical activity.
The members of The  Theosophical Society, the Alice A. Bailey groups, and 
similar careless  political promoters and political-masons aught reconsider 
their activities and  especially how they realate to political activity 
within their r_anks, in their  promoted books and websites, and among their 
members and particularly their  leaders. Else they will most certainly fail in 
promoting the wisdom teachings  of all ages.

M. Sufilight

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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010  5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World The original rules of the Theosophical  Society, 

The answer would be simple but they would use a lot more  words. "The 
Colonel could make any rule he wanted, but he's dead now and  we don't 

Chuck the Heretic


In a message dated 2/11/2010 1:05:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Dear friends

My  views are:

The below words might be worthwhile to consider...
Some  of you already know about them, - yet others do not.

"In the Supplement  to The Theosophist for July 1883 can be found a very 
important  pronouncement by Col. H. S. Olcott, the co-founder and President 
the  Theosophical Society, against mixing Theosophy and politics. This  
statement, which H.P.B. endorsed, reads:

The tenacious observance  by the Founders of our Society of the principle 
of absolute neutrality, on  its behalf, in all questions which lie outside 
the limits of its declared  "objects," ought to have obviated the necessity 
say that there is a  natural and perpetual divorce between Theosophy and 
Politics. Upon a  hundred platforms I have announced this fact, and every 
other practicable  way, public and private, it has been affirmed and 
Before we  came to India, the word Politics had never been pronounced in 
connection  with our names; for the idea was too absurd to be even 
entertained, much  less expressed. But in this country, affairs are in such 
exceptional  state, that every foreigner, of whatsoever nationality, comes 
Police  surveillance more or less; and it was natural that we should be 
after until the real purpose of our Society's movements had been  
well shown by the developments of time. That end was reached in  due 
course; and in the year 1880, the Government of India, after an  
examination of 
our papers and other evidence, became convinced of our  political 
and issued all the necessary orders to relieve us  from further annoying 
surveillance. Since then, we have gone our ways  without troubling 
more than any other law-abiding persons, about  the existence of policemen 
detective bureaux. I would not have reverted  to so stale a topic if I had 
not been forced to do so by recent events. I  am informed that in Upper 
India, some unwise members of the Society have  been talking about the 
questions of the hour, as though  authorized to speak for our organization 
itself, or at least to give to  this or that view of current agitations the 
imprimatur of its approval or  disapproval. Again, it was but a fortnight 
so ago that one of the most  respectable and able of our Hindu fellows 
strongly importuned me to allow  the Theosophical Society's influence-such 
as it 
may be-to be thrown in  favour of Bills to promote religious instruction 
Hindu children, and  other "non-political" measures. That our members, and 
others whom it  interests, may make no mistake as to the Society's attitude 
as regards  Politics, I take this occasion to say that our Rules, and 
traditional  policy alike, prohibit every officer and fellow of the 
Society, AS 
SUCH,  to meddle with political questions in the slightest degree, and to  
compromise the Society by saying that it has, AS SUCH, any opinion upon  
or any oth_er questions. The Presidents of Branches, in all  countries, 
be good enough to read this pr_otest to their members, and  in every 
when initiating a candidate to give him to understand-as  I invariably 
do-the fact of our corporate neutrality. So convinced am I  that the 
of our Society depends upon our keeping closely to our  legitimate 
and leaving Politics "severely alone," I shall use  the full power 
permitted to me as Pres ident-Founder to suspend or expel  every member, or 
discipline or discharter any Branch which shall, by  offending in this 
imperil the work now so prosperously going on  in various parts of the 
world. "

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A question and a few words by  M. Sufilight:
I find it to be a fact that the Theosophical Society today  are muddling 
its stance on politics and clearly seem to be deviating from  the above 
as it stands today. 

It seems fair to ask the  leaders of the Theosophical Society to come 
forward and clearly explain  why its relation to the activities performed 
Annie Besant are of such a  kind as they consider her a great theosophist 
reagard to her  political activities? - And I will allow myself to ask this 
question on  this forum. Will you the leaders or even members of the 
Theosophical  Society clearly explain us all why?

And later offshoots of the  Theosophical Society could be asked the same 
question on whether they have  deviated from this original programe?
And will especially ask the so-called  esoteric and openly masonic oriented 
Alice A. Bailey groups about the  same?

- - -
Are there no members of the Theosophical Society at this  forum?
Perhaps some members at this forum will _ask some of_ the members of  the 
Theosophical Society about this central issue?

M.  Sufilight

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