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Re: Theos-World The original rules of the Theosophical Society, 1883

Feb 12, 2010 09:07 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen

I have this view my dear Heretical (smile) friend:
Those who have an open and compassionate heart do care about the Present Day theosophical groups and their offshoots and what they are doing right now.
And that was what I was referring to.

But, yes when heretic's say that they do not care, and I and others will encourage by saying: Do care. Do Mind.
The Law of Karmic Distribution is not Mocked, it never wavers and never fails. 

The Law of Karma cannot be written on a piece of paper by medicore humans and called a Law.
The fact that people keep believing in this silly game does not make it a valid theosophical activity.
The members of The Theosophical Society, the Alice A. Bailey groups, and similar careless political promoters and political-masons aught reconsider their activities and especially how they realate to political activity within their ranks, in their promoted books and websites, and among their members and particularly their leaders. Else they will most certainly fail in promoting the wisdom teachings of all ages.

M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World The original rules of the Theosophical Society, 1883

  The answer would be simple but they would use a lot more words. "The 
  Colonel could make any rule he wanted, but he's dead now and we don't care."

  Chuck the Heretic 

  In a message dated 2/11/2010 1:05:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, writes:

  Dear friends

  My views are:

  The below words might be worthwhile to consider...
  Some of you already know about them, - yet others do not.

  "In the Supplement to The Theosophist for July 1883 can be found a very 
  important pronouncement by Col. H. S. Olcott, the co-founder and President of 
  the Theosophical Society, against mixing Theosophy and politics. This 
  statement, which H.P.B. endorsed, reads:

  The tenacious observance by the Founders of our Society of the principle 
  of absolute neutrality, on its behalf, in all questions which lie outside 
  the limits of its declared "objects," ought to have obviated the necessity to 
  say that there is a natural and perpetual divorce between Theosophy and 
  Politics. Upon a hundred platforms I have announced this fact, and every 
  other practicable way, public and private, it has been affirmed and reiterated. 
  Before we came to India, the word Politics had never been pronounced in 
  connection with our names; for the idea was too absurd to be even 
  entertained, much less expressed. But in this country, affairs are in such an 
  exceptional state, that every foreigner, of whatsoever nationality, comes under 
  Police surveillance more or less; and it was natural that we should be looked 
  after until the real purpose of our Society's movements had been thoroughly 
  well shown by the developments of time. That end was reached in due 
  course; and in the year 1880, the Government of India, after an examination of 
  our papers and other evidence, became convinced of our political neutrality, 
  and issued all the necessary orders to relieve us from further annoying 
  surveillance. Since then, we have gone our ways without troubling ourselves 
  more than any other law-abiding persons, about the existence of policemen or 
  detective bureaux. I would not have reverted to so stale a topic if I had 
  not been forced to do so by recent events. I am informed that in Upper 
  India, some unwise members of the Society have been talking about the political 
  questions of the hour, as though authorized to speak for our organization 
  itself, or at least to give to this or that view of current agitations the 
  imprimatur of its approval or disapproval. Again, it was but a fortnight or 
  so ago that one of the most respectable and able of our Hindu fellows 
  strongly importuned me to allow the Theosophical Society's influence-such as it 
  may be-to be thrown in favour of Bills to promote religious instruction for 
  Hindu children, and other "non-political" measures. That our members, and 
  others whom it interests, may make no mistake as to the Society's attitude 
  as regards Politics, I take this occasion to say that our Rules, and 
  traditional policy alike, prohibit every officer and fellow of the Society, AS 
  SUCH, to meddle with political questions in the slightest degree, and to 
  compromise the Society by saying that it has, AS SUCH, any opinion upon those 
  or any oth_er questions. The Presidents of Branches, in all countries, will 
  be good enough to read this protest to their members, and in every instance 
  when initiating a candidate to give him to understand-as I invariably 
  do-the fact of our corporate neutrality. So convinced am I that the perpetuity 
  of our Society depends upon our keeping closely to our legitimate province, 
  and leaving Politics "severely alone," I shall use the full power 
  permitted to me as Pres ident-Founder to suspend or expel every member, or even 
  discipline or discharter any Branch which shall, by offending in this respect, 
  imperil the work now so prosperously going on in various parts of the 
  world. "

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  A question and a few words by M. Sufilight:
  I find it to be a fact that the Theosophical Society today are muddling 
  its stance on politics and clearly seem to be deviating from the above words 
  as it stands today. 

  It seems fair to ask the leaders of the Theosophical Society to come 
  forward and clearly explain why its relation to the activities performed by 
  Annie Besant are of such a kind as they consider her a great theosophist with 
  reagard to her political activities? - And I will allow myself to ask this 
  question on this forum. Will you the leaders or even members of the 
  Theosophical Society clearly explain us all why?

  And later offshoots of the Theosophical Society could be asked the same 
  question on whether they have deviated from this original programe?
  And will especially ask the so-called esoteric and openly masonic oriented 
  Alice A. Bailey groups about the same?

  - - -
  Are there no members of the Theosophical Society at this forum?
  Perhaps some members at this forum will ask some of_ the members of the 
  Theosophical Society about this central issue?

  M. Sufilight

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