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Re: Theos-World Re: DR. C V Agrawal

Jul 21, 2009 10:32 AM
by MKR


Amen.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Anand <AnandGholap@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> It is not so important what the motives of the person were, who leaked the
> document. There was a proposal to disenfranchise members and members needed
> to know it. Motives of the person releasing documents on internet are less
> important. His motives don't change above important facts. And timely
> opposition by members prevented the disaster.
> Best
> Anand Gholap
>
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "robertapimenta26" <robertapimenta26@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr.Ramadoss,
> >
> > Now we get to the core of things. You say, and from your perspective you
> are right, that unveiling certain information, if it is for a good cause, is
> not unethical and permitted. It happens all the time, and yes, that is good.
> But is this what really happened?
> >
> > No, Mr. Ramadoss, this is what didn't happen.
> >
> > The person who leaked the proposal certainly didn't act in good faith,
> but wanted to create more confusion, suggesting that there was an 'ultra'
> secret conspiracy going on, while that was clearly not the case. There is no
> evidence of that anywhere. In the legal sense: there was only speech of a
> proposal subject to vote. The way this leaked proposal was exploited, and
> later presented on this very site, was unethical and only served one
> particular party. This bad proposal became a tool in the hands of those who
> wanted to make the case that the Algeo supporters had a secret agenda, that
> Algeo & Co wanted to take your voting right away. That Mr. Ramadoss is the
> unethical part of it. Please do me favor and check all the archives and all
> the information Mr. Rozman has on his site and check and re-check.
> >
> > So to the letter of the law it was an offence, and ethically speaking it
> was an offence as well, and many, including yourself fell into the trap. It
> was a brilliant move, I must admit, more than one year after the event we
> are still talking about it, when can we finally put it to rest Mr. Ramadoss?
> >
> > Roberta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is nothing unethical or illegal or criminal, IMHO. (I have been
> > > looking into this issue for years after I got burnt years ago by
> another
> > > member of TS on this issue!!!)
> > >
> > > In the US, everyday, news media discover newsworthy information that
> > > organizations and even government wants to keep confidential or even
> secret
> > > and is distributed to the public by the news media. If that were not
> the
> > > case, news media cannot function and citizens' interests protected.
> > > .
> > > Here is a very serious policy issue going to the very core of the
> democratic
> > > rights of the members world-wide. But for the timely discovery and
> > > dissemination, I do not know what would be the situation in TS today.
> One
> > > can use their imagination very easily.
> > > .
> > > Considering the players involved and timing of the move, if I had run
> into
> > > the same information I would have done the same to protect the TS.
> Since no
> > > money is involved and no trade secrets are involved, it may be criminal
> in
> > > an autocratic state like China or North Korea, but not in a democracy
> like
> > > USA or India.
> > > .
> > > Also but for theos-talk maillist, it would have been kept secret until
> we
> > > woke up one day and shocked to learn we have lost our democratic rights
> for
> > > ever.
> > > .
> > > Even in the case of Dr. Agarwal's death, but for theos-talk, we all
> would
> > > continue to be in the dark.
> > > .
> > > I once again wish to remind the readers here, when did you see any of
> the
> > > leaders connecting with members and interacting with members on
> Internet. In
> > > the last more than 15 years, we have seen only two leaders - *Einar
> > > Adalsteinsson *(deceased General Secretary of Iceland) and Warwick Keys
> (NZ
> > > General Secretary). Has anyone asked why? Too busy or too scared to
> face
> > > members?
> > >
> > > Messenger aka MKR
> > >
> > > visit www.theosophy.net
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM, robertapimenta26 <
> > > robertapimenta26@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Someone, who was not on the list of adressees, illegally intercepted
> the
> > > > document and used it, not by giving it to people Mr. Anand, but by
> > > > deliberately leaking it, thus causing obvious confusion and anger.
> This
> > > > person had great interest in the commotion that came about, and made
> very
> > > > smartly use of it. Must I remind you all, that such an action, using
> > > > confidential documents and or specific information, without
> permission of
> > > > the addressee, is a criminal offence?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>  
>


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