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Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual

Jul 11, 2009 00:43 AM
by Martin

I agree chuckie:) Let's find out the WHEEL again:)

--- On Sat, 7/11/09, <> wrote:

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Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 8:40 AM

Hmmm, let's see.  Ghandi never faced a real opponent, Stalin would  have 
had him for lunch and Mother Theresa was a ghoul who fed off the energies  of 
the dying.  I don't know what they were teaching but it ain't anything I  
would want to learn.
I'm saying we need to get away from the notion of teachers as identifiable  
agents altogether.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/10/2009 10:22:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, writes:


So you are saying that World Teachers are known by their actions rather  
than their words?  If this is the case one could argue that Gandhi and  Mother 
Theresa were world teachers.

I suppose one can walk with world  teachers or one can walk behind them.   
A spiritual evolved soul is  probably on the way to being his/her own world  


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>Subject: Theos-World Barking up the  wrong tree, as usual
>Ok. The  World Teacher thing is fun but the truth is that Theosophist have 
>been  flying the wrong carpet on it since the idea floated out of Annie 
>the Bishop's hats. 
>First, there really has never been  an identifiable person who could be 
>considered a "World Teacher" who  had any serious impact in his lifetime. 
>Buddha was just another  local nutcase and Jesus got himself killed. So 
>this business about  finding out who the next "World Teacher" was going to 
>makes about  as much sense as trying to find out who will be the next 
>Jackson (in the hope of aborting him before he can appear) and all the  
>over whether it was Krishnamurti or Aleister Crowley or even L.  Ron 
>Hubbard is missing the point.
>We can ignore crooks  like Sai Baba Booey and crazy old Ben Creme for the  
>If there were to be a world teacher, that  individual would not have to 
>appear in public at all. He could be  totally obscure, sitting in his 
>room, watching reruns of old  game shows on cable, an putting the 
>directly into the  minds of the people prepared to receive it without them 
>even knowing  that he exists or that the information, the ideas as it 
>came  from any source other than their own minds. The techniques are  
>certainly simple enough. Anyone can master them in a few days. Which  is 
why the 
>dugpa stuff is so silly. There is nothing they can do that  anyone else 
>cannot do and probably are.
>It is obvious  that the idea of a World Teacher, wandering the earth 
>spreading  teaching to the hungry masses is a simple failure to understand 
>information can be spread. It is from a mindset locked into archaic  and 
>fundamentally clumsy means of communication, voice, the written  word, 
>appearance, even video. There is no need for any of  that and one wonders 
>why those called masters of the wisdom, who  frankly do not, in 
>seem to have been masters of much of  anything but falling off their 
>carpets, would not have realized  that. 
>The search is a waste of time and energy. If there  really is a world 
>teacher running around loose somewhere, he has no  need to be found, no 
desire to 
>be public. That would just get in the  way and be a distraction.
>It is time to face reality and forget  all the nonsense that has been 
>written in the past by people who  either did not know what they were 
>about or who had a vested  interest in public ignorance.
>Chuck the  heretic
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