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Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy

Jul 09, 2009 07:31 AM
by Drpsionic

Oh, we have not gotten to the well yet.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/9/2009 3:14:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, writes:


Chuck is diving deep now, guys:)

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (  
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ ( >  wrote:

From: _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (  <_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
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Subject:  Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ ( 
Date:  Thursday, July 9, 2009, 6:38 AM

There were no earthlings or  martians.  It is all an illusion of  Maya.

Chuck the  heretic

In a message dated 7/8/2009 11:02:06 P.M. Central Daylight  Time,  
_silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ (   writes:

I thought earthlings preceded martians?    Although I  am  very hazy on 
subject - read years ago that in the next  manvantara  humans evolve to 
Venetians, martians evolve to earthlings  and that  earth is in the middle 
between mars and   venus?


>From:  "_Augoeides-From:  "_AuFrom:  "_Augoeides-222@Augoeides-2_ 
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>To:  _theos-talk@ _theos-talk@ _theos-tal_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
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>Sent:  Thursday, 9 July, 2009 1:30:10 PM
>Subject: Re:  Theos-World Roman  Catholic Church on New   Age/Theosophy
>Cass,  Morten,  
>I seem to recall that Blavatsky made mention of a small  residual of  
Intelligences remained upon Mars from the Original  species that had been 
and moved on due to the Mars Globe  cycle. 
>---- Original Message -----  
>From: "Cass Silva"  <silva_cass@silva_cass>  
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro  
>Sent: Wednesday, July 8,  2009 7:08:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific  
>Subject: Re:  Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy   
>Do aliens live on Mars - no - Martians live on Mars, and   probably like 
enjoy the location, especially if they live by a hot  spring.  lol They 
would need anti-freeze should they wish to holiday  on earth!  
>>From:  Morten Nymann  Olesen < global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk >  
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro 
>>Sent: Thursday,  9 July, 2009 2:21:54  AM 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman  Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy 
>>Some of them must, as I see it, be  considered to have been  created by 
ordinary humans, because their creation are  imprecise and  angles 
incorrect or 
non-symmetrical, where they aught to be so.   
>>I did however like the Jelly-Fish at the  bottom.  
>>I remineded me of the following from H.  P. Blavatsky:  
>>"We speak of the inhabitants of other planets  and imagine that if  they 
are men, i. e., thinking entities, they  must be as we are. The fancy of  
poets and painters and sculptors  never fails to represent even the angels 
as a  
beautiful copy of manâ  plus wings. We say that all this is an error and a  
delusion;  because, if on this little earth alone one finds such a 
in   its flora, fauna and mankind âfrom the sea-weed to the cedar of 
from  the jelly-fish to the elephant, from the Bushman and negro to  the 
Apollo  Belvedereâalter the conditions cosmic and planetary, and  there 
must be 
as a  result quite a different flora, fauna and  mankind. The same laws 
fashion  quite a different set of things  and beings even on this our 
including  in it all our planets.  How much more different then must be 
external nature in  other Solar  systems, and how foolish is it to judge of 
stars and worlds   and human beings by our own, as physical 
>science does! "  
>>Did someone say that Aliens live on Mars?  
>>M. Sufilight 
>>-----  Original Message -----  
>>From: Augoeides-222@  
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro 
>>Sent: Tuesday,  July 07, 2009 7:55 PM  
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman  Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy 
>>Here is a link for  the latest Crop Circles which have a  scientific 
message some alledge:  
>>>>> __http://www.earthfilh_ (http://www.earthfil_/)  
(_http://www.earthfilh_ (http://www.earthfil/) )  
php?ID=1578& category= Environment< <<  
>>And because the message is about the Sun's  activity here are the  Solar 
Observatory SOHO links: 
>>The Solar and  Heliospheric Home Page (SOHO) 
>>>>> __http://sohowww.h_ (http://sohowww._/)  (_http://sohowww.h_ 
(http://sohowww./) )   nascom.nasa.  gov/home. html<<< 
>>The Latest  SOHO  Images 
>>>>> __http://sohowww.h_ (http://sohowww._/)  (_http://sohowww.h_ 
(http://sohowww./) )  nascom.nasa.  gov/data/ 
realtime-  images.html< << 
>>----- Original Message -----  
>>From: "Morten Nymann  Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet.  dk> 
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro 
>>Sent:  Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:21:39 AM  GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific  
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman  Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy 
>>Yes. The links  says the  following: 
>>"19th century esotericism is seen by some as   completely secularised. 
Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements  of  traditional esotericism 
been thoroughly integrated with  aspects of modern  culture, including the 
search for causal laws,  evolutionism, psychology and  the study of 
religions. It 
reached its  clearest form in the ideas of Helena  Blavatsky, a Russian 
medium who  founded the Theosophical Society with Henry  Olcott in New York 
1875. The Society aimed to fuse elements of Eastern and  Western  
traditions in 
an evolutionary type of spiritualism. It had three  main  aims: 
>>1. "To form a nucleus of the Universal  Brotherhood of  Humanity, without 
distinction of race, creed, caste  or colour. 
>>2.  "To encourage the study of comparative  religion, philosophy and 
>>3. "To investigate  unexplained laws of Nature and the powers  latent in 
>>- - - 
>>Someone might  want to throw an e-mail to the Vatican telling them,  that 
the above  is not entirely true. 
>>The three main  aims as  they were formulated in the Constitutions just 
before H. P.  Blavatsky  died was: 
>>"The objects of the  Theosophical Society  are: First. - To form the 
nucleus of a  Universal Brotherhood of Humanity,  without distinction of 
creed, sex, caste or colour. Second. - To promote  the study of Aryan  and 
Eastern literatures, religions, philosophies and  sciences,  and to 
demonstrate their importance to Humanity. Third. - To   investigate 
unexplained laws 
of Nature and the psychic powers latent in  man. "  
>>(The Theosophist - January 1891) 
>>- - -  
>>Further one aught to realize  that the original aims  when The 
Theosophical Society was formed had  the following somewhat different  
words, which the 
Vatican presumably  dislikes and therefore omits in its  official Internet 
>>"The objects of the  society are, to collect and  diffuse a knowledge of 
the laws which govern the  universe."  
>>"Preamble of the T.S. 
>>Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in The Theosophical Forum,   September 
1947, pp. 515-18 
>>The title of the Theosophical  Society  explains the objects and desires 
of its founders: they seek  "to obtain  knowledge of the nature and 
of the Supreme  Power and of the higher  spirits by the aid of physical 
processes."  In other words, they hope, that by  going deeper than modern 
has hitherto done, into the esoteric  philosophies of ancient times,  they 
may be enabled to obtain, for themselves  and other  investigators, proof 
the existence of an "Unseen Universe," the   nature of its inhabitants, if 
such there be, and the laws which govern  them  and their relations with 
>>Whatever may be the  private opinions of its members, the  society has no 
dogmas to enforce, no  creed to disseminate. It is  formed neither as a 
Spiritualistic schism, nor to  serve as the foe  or friend of any sectarian 
philosophic body. Its only  axiom is  the omnipotence of truth, its only 
creed a 
profession of unqualified   devotion to its discovery and propagation. In 
considering the  qualifications  of applicants for membership, it knows 
race,  sex, color, country nor  creed. 
>>That all the  members of a society should  acquire an equal degree of 
knowledge  within the same period of time is not to  be expected. Knowledge 
always progressive, and proportional to natural  capability and  
to intellectual impression. Even the most  intelligent  and the most 
perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtain  or  attain. To all, 
are alike indispensable, rectitude of  principle  and conduct, and love of 
truth and wisdom. No student can  win his diploma  without undertaking a 
course of study and  proving a good character; and  every handicraftsman 
has to 
serve his  apprenticeship before he can be  journeyman or master. So 
theosophy,  which claims to teach the vital points of  science and art, 
exacts from  
its adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity  of mind, an  unselfish 
devotion, an unflinching courage and perseverance, and a   purity of life 
thought commensurate with the nature of their  self-imposed  task, before 
>admitting them into the arcana of  nature, and intrusting  them with 
not shared by meaner souls.  
>>The  founders of the Theosophical Society begin  their work with a solemn 
conviction  of its importance. They do not  undervalue the difficulties, 
intrinsic and  extrinsic, of the task.  Their work is that which the 
Spiritualists have  neglected, the  Materialists have not attempted, and 
the Theologians 
have   misunderstood and undervalued. Starting with a hope, rather than a  
conviction,  of the attainment of their desires, they are animated  solely 
by an 
earnest  purpose to learn the truth, wheresoever it may  be found; and 
esteem no  obstacles so serious, no pains so great, as  to excuse them for 
relinquishing  it. 
>>They  look in vain to the Church for such evidence  of immortality as 
satisfy the exactions of a fearless reason; in vain to  her opponents  for 
an explanation of the preterhuman experiences of mankind,  from  the 
periods. The Spiritualists, who profess to be in  constant  relations with 
the departed, are unable to agree upon a  system of philosophy.  Thus the 
longing of the race for a practical  demonstration of its future  existence 
unsatisfied; the laws of  intercommunication between the visible  and the 
invisible worlds are  not accurately defined; and the problem of the  two 
eternities which  bound this life remains unsolved, despite a multitude of  
and academies." .......and more....... 
>> __http://www.theosocih_ (http://www.theosoci_/)  (_http://www.theosocih_ 
(http://www.theosoci/) )  
/gfkforum/ ourdir.htm 
>>M. Sufilight  says:  
>>So the emphasis upon Aryan and Eastern literature aught not   to be 
out just because the Vatican and its useful puppets have the  aim  to 
promote the idea. 
>>There is still  today a great  abyss between the Eastern doctrines on 
wisdom and the  western ones on dogmas  and blind beliefs. And this we will 
to  recognize. - Some have sought to  build a bridge between them and 
such a teaching a Doctrine of the  Heart. Others have tried to put  their 
own versions forward. But a search after  Truth can, we claim,  never be 
on a blind belief where rest of reason is  promoted  and the possible 
development of Wisdom is ignored. And the Wisdom   Teachings operates 
through groups 
and organisations carrying various names  and  not only those who pride 
themselves by the use of the name  "theosophical" .  And we will know them 
their fruits, whether they  promote fanatical views or  promote an honest 
after the truth  without multicultural religiously-  related bigotry. 
>>M. Sufilight 
>>----- Original Message  ----- 
>>From: Anand  
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July  07, 2009 9:21 AM  
>>Subject: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New   Age/Theosophy 
>>I got this link just now.  
>>  __http://www.vatican.h_ (http://www.vatican._/)  
(_http://www.vatican.h_ (http://www.vatican./) )  va/roman_  
curia/pontifical  _councils/ interelg/ documents/ rc_pc_interelg_  
doc_20030203_ new-age_en. 
>>Anand  Gholap 
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