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Re: Theos-World Re: Membership Numbers in TSA Speak

May 31, 2009 09:39 AM
by MKR

Any discussion on any matter is welcome. Let us hope other lurkers
(including "leaders") come out in the open and join the discussion without
fear or favor.

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Anand <> wrote:

> Dear MKR,
> Last year members could see that American section officers asserted their
> own individuality and Mr. John Algeo contested elections. However it is
> still a question whether in last two decades officers outside India
> generally took orders and guidance from Ms. Radha Burnier or if they took
> decisions on their own. If you assume the latter possibility, then whole
> understanding of the situation changes. You can note there was no
> significant challenge to Ms. Radha Burnier in almost three decades.
> You have read ES pledge posted by Frank few weeks back. Suppose that pledge
> is still there in ES, it exacts obedience in all Theosophical and esoteric
> matters from it's members. All top officers in India and abroad are mostly
> in ES. In that case whatever decisions are taken in India and abroad, ES
> outer head had considerable influence in decision making.
> I am just analyzing influence of ES pledge on TS election. It is a law of
> karma that one thing affects many others. Some people don't like my occult
> investigations in sensitive election issues. But my advice to them is they
> should freely discuss all things, there should not be taboos. Don't they
> have policy of freedom of thought and freedom of expression?
> Best
> Anand Gholap
> --- In <>, MKR
> <mkr777@...> wrote:
> >
> > Membership Numbers in TSA Speak
> > .
> > Talk of leaders from the USA after last years' election in which the
> > candidate from the USA did not win, has centered on the need to change
> the
> > international rules and the ill fated attempt to change them to seize
> > control of the appointment of the president by the GC by secretly
> > disenfranchising the members world-wide. The GC members (especially from
> > small sections) are the ones who will benefit by making the international
> > president a puppet of a handful of GC members. Thanks for the good luck
> of
> > TS and its members, the plan was discovered in time and with the help of
> > Internet, members became aware and enraged at what the leaders are upto.
> > .
> > The real big elephant in the room is the poor member recruitment and
> > retention outside India. I just looked up the member statistics. Thanks
> to
> > Tillett's thesis, because the annual reports are hard to find, and no one
> > knows why.
> > .
> > Here are the figures for the USA in 1912 and 1913. They are 3368 and
> 4145.
> > The current count is around 4000. So, in spite of the increase in
> population
> > over nearly a century, the lack of growth says that something is
> seriously
> > wrong. We may have a number of retired professors, academics, scholars,
> and
> > daily meditators active in the TSA leadership, but the statistics speaks
> for
> > itself.
> > .
> > TS is organized with full autonomy at lodge and section levels. So,
> > responsibility for the poor numbers falls squarely on the leaders in the
> > in the recent decades. They may be talking the talk, but totally
> ineffective
> > on the bottom line.
> > .
> > On the other hand, the membership in India is steadily growing and this
> > confirms the wise decision taken by the Inner Founders to move TS to
> India
> > from the USA at a time when travel and living conditions in India were
> very
> > difficult.
> > .
> > So the Indian section must be doing something right and the West can
> learn
> > some lessons from India. No one in the West seems to be interested. In
> the
> > circumstances, the Indians can legitimately view the rules change move by
> > leaders from the West as simply an end run trying to reduce the voting
> > influence of the Indian members and marginalize the importance of the
> > president.
> > .
> > It is time that independent thinking members see the facts as they are
> and
> > understand what is going on and what is at stake for TS and its members.
> It
> > is the indifference of members that seems to have lead to the current
> state
> > of affairs after the ill fated attempt to defeat the sitting president by
> > alleging that she is sick, both mentally and physically, which seems to
> > continue even today.
> > .
> > Let us all wake up and be vigilant. Let us talk about these issues when
> we
> > get together with our theosophical friends. Such discussions will result
> in
> > a change in priorities and only then we will see constructive results.
> > .
> > .
> > MKR
> >
> > There is no religion higher than Truth
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >

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