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Re: Theos-World new member message for old members

May 02, 2009 01:19 PM
by Shel Steijl

Dear MKR and Eldon,

Thanks to you both respectively, for a. explaining the current situation, and b. attempting to redirect the energies of the discussion. Time will tell if your efforts bear fruit ..;-). Thanks anyway. 

When I joined the forum, Dallas Tenbroek was a member who had the time, wisdom, energy and resources to post regular scripts on this forum.  These were seldom, if ever, a link to another site or library, with the content of his post being embedded in the message itself.  Reference would sometimes be made to external reading (eg. SD, VOS), but the reader could in fact benefit without having the source at hand.  The messages were such to inspire any student of theosophy to more learning. I do not recall any opinions being offered regarding the politics of any organisation or study group, and seldom did he criticise or question the material offered by any one writer (historical or living);  instead reference would be made to quotes which illustrated an alternative point of view.  Like many other members, I looked forward to Dallas's writings and benefitted from them immensely.  His death in September 2006 was a sad shock, but his work lives still.

I would welcome another "Dallas" to this site.  If I had the time - and, more importantly, the knowledge - I would like to attempt this myself.  Unfortunately, I have neither of these attributes (yet) ... perhaps there is another member out there who is willing and able?

Kind regards

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eldon B Tucker 
  Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:25 PM
  Subject: Theos-World new member message for old members

  Here's the message that new subscribers get on theos-talk. It would be good
  to keep it in mind during the discussions.

  One thread that seems to be getting a bit too personal seems to have
  originated in a message of Ananad's where he says that Reed Carson, Katinka
  Hesselink, and Daniel Caldwell were "some of the individuals who did much
  damage to Theosophical movement by their online activities." This is the
  "will you shut up" thread.

  I think it's time for the "will you shut up" thread to itself shut up.

  Let's enact a cease fire on all sides where all the "you're a bad person
  because you did ..." talk stops.

  We can talk about the relative merits of Leadbeater, Crowley, Bailey, Wood,
  Ballard, Hodgson, Barborak, etc. without picking still-living people on the
  list being personally put under the microscope and dissected.

  It would be good if we shifted our attention from the weakness in our
  opponent's position, looking to strike yet another stunning blow, and
  instead look for something interesting, creative, and unrelated to personal

  There's an interesting short piece in the March 2009 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN.
  "Taming the Madness of Crowds" on page 16 talks about hooliganism, about
  "the melees ant international soccer matches are infamous for the intensity
  of violence . . . Social scientists who study hooligan chaso think they have
  fonud a better way to keep the peace . . . Portuguese security adopted the
  researcher' recommendation to institute low-profile, not-aggressive
  tactits--the most visible of which was to leave the riot gear behindfor
  police officers closest to fans . . . [It] did not alienate fans in the same
  way that legions of police in riot gear do. Shows of force . . . tend to
  antagonize crows, especially if police display favoritism, as in the case of
  a 2001 match in Rome when the officers stood by while Italian fanatics
  pelted Mancherster United aficionados with full plastic bottles."

  There are many short pieces of new discoveries, ideas, or approaches that
  appear in popular magazines. Anyone else come across something inseresting?

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