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Re: Theos-World HPB-- Faker or one with real occult power or both

Feb 27, 2009 02:45 PM
by Drpsionic

I'm not sure that HPB actually thought that way, but there is safety in  
being thought harmlessly mad.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 2/27/2009 11:21:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, writes:

I have no opinion on this.
She could have been faking  stuff,  There is some data from some sources 
which say

I  take note of the claims that she faked  stuff but I withhold my opinion  
on it. 

Which is better, or wiser,

to be called a faker, and  laughed at,

or to be called a real occultist with very real occult  power and murdered or 
burned or hung
for being a witch or  something.

I do understand that real Occult Power really scares people,  and when people 
in enough fear, they will kill you, if you are the one  putting fear into 

So, HPB could be both a fake and a holder of  real Occult power at the same 

The fake stuff is so that people  laugh at  her, have no fear of her, and 
allow her to live.

end  Henry B. Ellak

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Anand <_AnandGholap@AnandGhol_ 
( >  wrote:
From: Anand <_AnandGholap@AnandGhol_ ( >
Subject:  Theos-World Re: C.W. Leadbeater, the greatest occultist-saint of 
all  times
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ ( 
Date:  Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:38 AM

Following passages are taken from a  book. 

" [Blavatsky's housekeeper, Emma Cutting, demonstrated] how she  and
HPB had made a doll together, which they ... manipulated on a  long
bamboo pole in semi-darkness to provide the Master's  alleged
apparitions. Emma had also dropped "precipitated" letters on  to
Theosophical heads from holes in the ceiling, while her husband  had
made sliding panels and hidden entrances into the shrine  room
[adjoining HPB's bedroom] to facilitate Blavatsky's comings and  goings
and make possible the substitution of all the brooches, dishes  and
other objects that she used in her demonstrations [i.e., as  purported
materializations or "apports"]..mat

The Russian  journalist V. S. Solovieff claimed to have caught
[Blavatsky] red-handed  with the silver bells which produced astral
music [in séances]....  Blavatsky confessed to Solovieff quite bluntly
that the phenomena were  fraudulent, adding that one must deceive men
in order to rule them  (Washington, 1995).  "


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