Re: 4th sub-race
Feb 06, 2009 00:41 AM
Thank you for your response and insightful possibilities.
There are many passages where the Mahatmas and Madame
Blavatsky deal with this thorny subject and I actually
prefer to use the word mystery, rather than dichotomy
or even contradiction.
>From my perspective, the teachings on globes, rounds,
chains and races are profoundly occult and not necessarily
intended to be accepted quite so literally and uncritically,
although there may be some value in this for the initiate.
It seems one of the great challenges faced by the
Mahatmas and Madame Blavatsky was to translate the meaning
of virtually untranslatable abstract concepts into
something at least approximating a similar meaning in the
western analytical mind.
As the Mahatma KH writes, "First of all and again I will
draw your attention to the tremendous difficulty of
finding appropriate terms in English which would convey
to the educated European mind even an approximately
correct notion about the various subjects we will have
to treat upon."
ML 65 Chr. of George Linton and Virginia Hanson
And from the Mahatma M, "Our terms are untranslatable;
and without a good knowledge of our complete system
(which cannot be given but to regular initiates) would
suggest nothing definite to your perceptions but only
be a source of confusion..."
ML 46 Chronology of George Linton and Virginia Hanson
And again from the Mahatma KH, "Our mystic terms in their
clumsy re-translation from the Sanskrit into English are
as confusing to us as they are to you ? especially to "M"."
ML 66 Chronology of George Linton and Virginia Hanson
Therefore, once again from my perspective, many of the
specific terms and passages used in their teachings were
neither "blinds", dichotomies nor contradictions.
The strongly analytical western minds of Messrs Sinnett
and Hume, and indeed many in this forum, needed and need
precise terms and categories to satisfy a need for
certainty. But perhaps absolute certainty is not possible
in matters spiritual and occult?
Nevertheless, the Mahatmas' and Madame Blavatsky's dharma
was to bring their eastern, occult teachings to the west and
they often had to use a certain specificity of terminology to
illustrate a hidden mystery, a terminology which might have
little or no real basis in "fact."
For me, herein lies the value of their apparent dichotomies.
They can cause some mystical minds to seek behind the written
statement in an attempt to understand the otherwise mysterious
meaning rather than focusing on the specific details.
> Dear Nigel,
> Thanks for the quotes, which confirms the dichotomy between KH and
> as where they place the bulk of humanity:
> HPB: V-5
> KH: IV-7
> Possible solution:
> As 1) the Mahatma Letters were not meant for publication and 2)
> position is in her public writings, and 3) as there is this idea
> exact numbers can not be given, it is therefore possible that the KH
> position has more merit than HPB's.
> Any other solutions to this?
> Mahatma KH writes, "?the highest people now
> on earth (spiritually) belong to the first sub-race of the fifth
> root Race, and those are the Aryan Asiatics; the highest race
> (physical intellectuality) is the last sub-race of the fifth ?
> yourselves the white conquerors. The majority of mankind belongs
> to the seventh sub-race of the fourth Root race, ? the above
> mentioned Chinamen and their off-shoots and branchlets (Malayans,
> Mongolians, Tibetans, Javanese, etc., etc., etc.) and remnants
> of other sub-races of the fourth ? and the seventh sub-race of
> the third race.
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