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Re: 4th sub-race

Feb 06, 2009 00:41 AM
by nhcareyta

Dear Govert

Thank you for your response and insightful possibilities.

There are many passages where the Mahatmas and Madame 
Blavatsky deal with this thorny subject and I actually 
prefer to use the word mystery, rather than dichotomy 
or even contradiction.

>From my perspective, the teachings on globes, rounds, 
chains and races are profoundly occult and not necessarily 
intended to be accepted quite so literally and uncritically, 
although there may be some value in this for the initiate.

It seems one of the great challenges faced by the 
Mahatmas and Madame Blavatsky was to translate the meaning 
of virtually untranslatable abstract concepts into 
something at least approximating a similar meaning in the 
western analytical mind.

As the Mahatma KH writes, "First of all and again I will 
draw your attention to the tremendous difficulty of 
finding appropriate terms in English which would convey 
to the educated European mind even an approximately 
correct notion about the various subjects we will have 
to treat upon." 
ML 65 Chr. of George Linton and Virginia Hanson

And from the Mahatma M, "Our terms are untranslatable; 
and without a good knowledge of our complete system 
(which cannot be given but to regular initiates) would 
suggest nothing definite to your perceptions but only 
be a source of confusion..."
ML 46 Chronology of George Linton and Virginia Hanson

And again from the Mahatma KH, "Our mystic terms in their 
clumsy re-translation from the Sanskrit into English are 
as confusing to us as they are to you ? especially to "M"." 
ML 66 Chronology of George Linton and Virginia Hanson

Therefore, once again from my perspective, many of the 
specific terms and passages used in their teachings were 
neither "blinds", dichotomies nor contradictions.

The strongly analytical western minds of Messrs Sinnett 
and Hume, and indeed many in this forum, needed and need
precise terms and categories to satisfy a need for 
certainty. But perhaps absolute certainty is not possible 
in matters spiritual and occult? 

Nevertheless, the Mahatmas' and Madame Blavatsky's dharma 
was to bring their eastern, occult teachings to the west and 
they often had to use a certain specificity of terminology to 
illustrate a hidden mystery, a terminology which might have 
little or no real basis in "fact."

For me, herein lies the value of their apparent dichotomies. 
They can cause some mystical minds to seek behind the written 
statement in an attempt to understand the otherwise mysterious 
meaning rather than focusing on the specific details.





> Dear Nigel,
> Thanks for the quotes, which confirms the dichotomy between KH and 
> as where they place the bulk of humanity:
> HPB: V-5
> KH: IV-7
> Possible solution:
> As 1) the Mahatma Letters were not meant for publication and 2) 
> position is in her public writings, and 3) as there is this idea 
> exact numbers can not be given, it is therefore possible that the KH
> position has more merit than HPB's.
> Any other solutions to this?
> Govert
> Mahatma KH writes, "?the highest people now
> on earth (spiritually) belong to the first sub-race of the fifth
> root Race, and those are the Aryan Asiatics; the highest race
> (physical intellectuality) is the last sub-race of the fifth ?
> yourselves the white conquerors. The majority of mankind belongs
> to the seventh sub-race of the fourth Root race, ? the above
> mentioned Chinamen and their off-shoots and branchlets (Malayans,
> Mongolians, Tibetans, Javanese, etc., etc., etc.) and remnants
> of other sub-races of the fourth ? and the seventh sub-race of
> the third race.

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