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Re: Theos-World Re: Can there be Life after Death? Are OBE and NDE real?

Jan 31, 2009 00:09 AM
by Leon Maurer

Hi Dirk,

Thanks for your cordial response.

The problem never repeated, but I've since had similar out of body  
experiences (OOBE), and find that when in lucid dreaming or during  
deep meditation, it is relatively easy to experience all those same  
consciousness effects as in the near death experience (NDE).

As for the OOBE itself... My ABC theory of cosmogenesis (1) is based  
on an entirely different multidimensional space geometry than your  
holon pelestration model. and since it postulates consciousness as  
the fundamental quality of absolute space (sunyata) located at the  
spin momentum origin (akasha) of all fractal involved radiant  
coenergetic fields -- it fully explains the ability of the higher  
self or spiritual consciousness to leave the body when its will,  
linked directly to the higher order astral, mental and spiritual  
fields, is no longer occupied with maintaining the life support  
activities of the body or busy responding to sensory information.

When we are in deep meditation, or at the time we think we are near  
death, our freed consciousness becomes all powerful, and can withdraw  
the three higher order astral, mental and spiritual fields from the  
physical body... And, then, being in a new realm, where there is no  
physical space substance to encounter, no gravity to tie one down,  
and time slows inversely with the increased mind-memory field  
frequency -- it can travel out of the body at will, move anyplace in  
physical space and time it wants to, and explore all its past  
memories -- including those of all past lives. Thus, our higher  
consciousness can have direct access to universal consciousness and  
all its G-force (Fohat) when in this OOB higher order metaphysical  

When I had my NDE, I was quite disappointed that it didn't last  
longer -- since I was just on the verge of doing just that (checking  
out my previous life;-) before turning around and looking at the  
sunlight (with the knowledge that it could no longer burn out my  
eyes ;-).  The relief, also, of being free of the body and the humor  
of watching the scrambling people moving in such ridiculous slow  
motion -- had me laughing hysterically when I came back... (And, no  
one could understand why I was chuckling all the way to the  
hospital.)  I actually didn't want to come back, so I was really  
laughing at the joke on me -- that now I had to spend a whole night  
hooked up to the monitors in intensive care while the cardiologists  
tried to figure out what caused my collapse. ;-)

If I had been a theosophist at that time, I would have recognized my  
pseudo heart attack as a karmic message.  But it took me more than  
two decades later to realize how it (and other fortunate occurrences)  
led me to discover a scientifically provable theory of cosmogenesis  
that verifies the theosophical metaphysics.

That OOBE, incidentally (almost 40 years ago) -- changed my whole  
life from that moment on -- by completely proving to me that all the  
metaphysics I later studied in the Secret Doctrine is 100% accurate  
and true... And that the new ABC scientific paradigms, based on it  
(as was Einstein's relativity and quantum physics (2)) -- are also  
entirely true and mutually compatible.  Einstein, of course, could  
only prove the physics of the lower order physical plane, although he  
tried for the rest of his life to find a similar proof of a unified  
field theory.  Unfortunately, the standard mathematics of the  
physical world, could never prove the metaphysical world's fractal  
holographic nature -- although string and M-brane theories are  
getting closer and closer.  But, without understanding the primacy of  
consciousness, they, too, will fail to find a unified field theory of  
everything -- which is their goal.

While I agree with your basic premise that the primal absolute space  
or sunyata is an infinitely flexible and infinitely divisible  
substance... My ABC model IS a holographic theory, and sees the  
"branes" solely as the endless dual surface layers of the  
interpenetrating (interconnected at their entangles zero-points)  
fractal involved spiral vortex hyperspherical fields (3) ... Note  
HPB's (and the Vedas') "Wheels within wheels within wheels."  Also,  
note the analogous holographic nature of the DNA molecule, and its  
twin spiral shell containing between them all the holistically  
encoded information of the 3d protein structures of the entire body  
-- located in every cell of each sentient being.

Also, observe that this analogous fractal involved spiral vortex  
field structure is replicated holographically in every fundamental  
light particle.  See photon cross-section (4) ... And note where the  
origin of the yin/yang symbol, (used by the Chinese to represent the  
"primal beginning") comes from.


Warm regards,

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1/30/094:41 AM, pelastration wrote:

> He Leon,
> thanks for sharing. Nice you are still here with us!
> In the topological holon approach the NDE can be explained by the
> withdraw on the spiritual holon out of its covering physical holon.
> During that phase the sub-holons between those two major holons are
> activated since they de-couple. It is like withdrawing your hand from
> a glove where the skin of the hand is glued on some parts to the
> inside textile of the glove.
> These between sub-holons make together the mind-interface where the
> spirit holon and body holon interact. Those local topological links
> (coupled tubes) start to break, making free or activating the stored
> energies.
> You can find more on the last page of the pdf:
> <>
> Kind regards,
> dirk
> --- In, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@...> wrote:
>> Some years ago just after arriving at an ongoing party, I had an NDE
>> during what appeared to be a coronary artery blockage heart attack
>> (later diagnosed as an aortal cramp) that caused severe cyanosis (I
>> was told) and unconsciousness that lasted several (3-5) minutes ...
>> Although I was about 15 feet from the nearest person when I collapsed
>> after I felt the severe pain in my chest -- I was able to later
>> describe, in accurate detail, all the people who rushed immediately
>> to my aid and what they said and did during their efforts to revive
>> me... All, from a position up near the ceiling looking down at my own
>> body on the floor.
>> After I revived, and told them exactly what I experienced -- from the
>> moment I felt the pain and realized I was dying, and then saw them
>> rush toward me and attempt resuscitation (since one of them was a
>> student doctor) -- they were all amazed at the accuracy of my report.
>> As proof that this experience was real... I could not have known the
>> identity of the person turning me over, and the one applying chest
>> pressure, or who said what to whom -- since most of the people there
>> were strangers.  At the time, I also experienced a complete life
>> review of every moment since birth, that passed through my mind
>> between one stride of the first person to recognize my condition and
>> rush toward me (in an extremely slower motion than I have ever seen
>> on a movie screen).
>> That slowing of time and the almost instantaneous day to day life
>> review, is proof enough for me to understand that my consciousness
>> had transferred from the lower frequency phase order of the physical
>> plane to the next higher frequency order astral (mind) plane where
>> long term memory and immediate vision and auditory images are
>> resonantly reflected and perceived at a frequency and velocity at
>> least one order greater than ordinary light. Note that very radiant
>> light filed, originating at a point source, would have to carry
>> fractally involved higher order harmonic fields along with it.  See a
>> cross section of the hyperspherical field structure of an oncoming
>> photon:
>> ... And, how all
>> radiant energy fields harmonically propagate as fractal involved 3-d
>> hyperspheres (toroids):
>> I imagine this is similar to what occurs to psychoactive or
>> hallucinogenic drug users when the brain's ordinary sensory
>> information normally flooding our consciousness, is electrochemically
>> inhibited, and awareness rises to the higher order metaphysical
>> experiential levels.  It also would explain altered states of
>> consciousness, such as those experienced in deep meditation, or drug
>> induced.  So, far, none of those experiences can be satisfactorily
>> explained by physical process of the brain.  And, there is no reason
>> to believe that consciousness is a function or epiphenomena of the
>> brain's neural system.
>> Later, this experience, and  further mind experiments trying to solve
>> the hard problems, and also resolve some of the paradoxes and
>> anomalies between quantum and relativity physics, led me to the
>> fractal geometric model of cosmogenesis* that seemed to cover it all.
>> *
>> This theory makes it self evident that higher states of
>> consciousness, like dreams, visions, epiphanies , etc., are real
>> experiences of the information carried (as modulated wave
>> interference patterns) on higher order hyperspace fields... And that
>> our individual self consciousness, as the fundamental quality or
>> aspect of the underlying *static* absolute (0°K) space, is connected
>> with the primal highest order triune (hyperspherical) fields**
>> surrounding each of us -- that do not disappear when the brain-body
>> dies.   Thus, verifying the reality of OOBE and NDE, and explaining
>> all possibilities of psi phenomena, as well as the possibility of
>> both the laws of karma and reincarnation being an interrelated
>> reality. IOW, there is the possibility of "life after death" and
>> ultimate rebirth in a new body that has no accessible memory of its
>> past lives... (That are not a direct part of the new body's
>> hyperspace fields, such as suppressed archetypal memories, etc.).
>> **
>> In addition to all the above, this configuration of multidimensional
>> space time, coupled with the universal laws of electrodynamics, and
>> how all information is carried by such fields within fields within
>> fields, etc., as modulated wave interference patterns -- indicates
>> that the entire universe is a hologram, and that all its information
>> is contained in every zero-point spin momentum (singularity) located
>> everywhere. It also offers a rational basis to explain how perceptive
>> consciousness accesses the information from the brain's sensory image
>> fields as well as the higher order fields of short term mind and long
>> term memory -- and how will, governed by intention or desire, whether
>> attentive or inattentive, can guide, through the brain's neurology,
>> all the most delicate and precise neuromuscular controlled positions
>> of the body.
>> Leon Maurer
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