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Re: Theos-World Can there be Life after Death? Are OBE and NDE real?

Jan 30, 2009 02:40 PM
by John DeSantis

Lenny, based on your absolutely complete and full life experience when
unconscious for a few minutes with your heart attack, can you (and hopefully
others) maybe comment on my dream experiences based on the time factor,
since I once read or heard on TV that science says our dreams happen in a
matter of seconds or minutes.

Why? Because I constantly have dreams in my sleep that clearly take place,
in the dreams, during many hours, days, and even weeks of activity.

Why and how does so much thinking and experiencing in dreams take place in
such short waking time? On what much more subtle mental plane are we on, if
we are not on the physical plane, when we are dreaming?

I most sincerely thank in advance both you, and others who may comment on

John DeSantis
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Leon Maurer <> wrote:

>   Some years ago just after arriving at an ongoing party, I had an NDE
> during what appeared to be a coronary artery blockage heart attack
> (later diagnosed as an aortal cramp) that caused severe cyanosis (I
> was told) and unconsciousness that lasted several (3-5) minutes ...
> Although I was about 15 feet from the nearest person when I collapsed
> after I felt the severe pain in my chest -- I was able to later
> describe, in accurate detail, all the people who rushed immediately
> to my aid and what they said and did during their efforts to revive
> me... All, from a position up near the ceiling looking down at my own
> body on the floor.
> After I revived, and told them exactly what I experienced -- from the
> moment I felt the pain and realized I was dying, and then saw them
> rush toward me and attempt resuscitation (since one of them was a
> student doctor) -- they were all amazed at the accuracy of my report.
> As proof that this experience was real... I could not have known the
> identity of the person turning me over, and the one applying chest
> pressure, or who said what to whom -- since most of the people there
> were strangers. At the time, I also experienced a complete life
> review of every moment since birth, that passed through my mind
> between one stride of the first person to recognize my condition and
> rush toward me (in an extremely slower motion than I have ever seen
> on a movie screen).
> That slowing of time and the almost instantaneous day to day life
> review, is proof enough for me to understand that my consciousness
> had transferred from the lower frequency phase order of the physical
> plane to the next higher frequency order astral (mind) plane where
> long term memory and immediate vision and auditory images are
> resonantly reflected and perceived at a frequency and velocity at
> least one order greater than ordinary light. Note that very radiant
> light filed, originating at a point source, would have to carry
> fractally involved higher order harmonic fields along with it. See a
> cross section of the hyperspherical field structure of an oncoming
> photon:
> ... And, how all
> radiant energy fields harmonically propagate as fractal involved 3-d
> hyperspheres (toroids):
> I imagine this is similar to what occurs to psychoactive or
> hallucinogenic drug users when the brain's ordinary sensory
> information normally flooding our consciousness, is electrochemically
> inhibited, and awareness rises to the higher order metaphysical
> experiential levels. It also would explain altered states of
> consciousness, such as those experienced in deep meditation, or drug
> induced. So, far, none of those experiences can be satisfactorily
> explained by physical process of the brain. And, there is no reason
> to believe that consciousness is a function or epiphenomena of the
> brain's neural system.
> Later, this experience, and further mind experiments trying to solve
> the hard problems, and also resolve some of the paradoxes and
> anomalies between quantum and relativity physics, led me to the
> fractal geometric model of cosmogenesis* that seemed to cover it all.
> *
> This theory makes it self evident that higher states of
> consciousness, like dreams, visions, epiphanies , etc., are real
> experiences of the information carried (as modulated wave
> interference patterns) on higher order hyperspace fields... And that
> our individual self consciousness, as the fundamental quality or
> aspect of the underlying *static* absolute (0°K) space, is connected
> with the primal highest order triune (hyperspherical) fields**
> surrounding each of us -- that do not disappear when the brain-body
> dies. Thus, verifying the reality of OOBE and NDE, and explaining
> all possibilities of psi phenomena, as well as the possibility of
> both the laws of karma and reincarnation being an interrelated
> reality. IOW, there is the possibility of "life after death" and
> ultimate rebirth in a new body that has no accessible memory of its
> past lives... (That are not a direct part of the new body's
> hyperspace fields, such as suppressed archetypal memories, etc.).
> **
> In addition to all the above, this configuration of multidimensional
> space time, coupled with the universal laws of electrodynamics, and
> how all information is carried by such fields within fields within
> fields, etc., as modulated wave interference patterns -- indicates
> that the entire universe is a hologram, and that all its information
> is contained in every zero-point spin momentum (singularity) located
> everywhere. It also offers a rational basis to explain how perceptive
> consciousness accesses the information from the brain's sensory image
> fields as well as the higher order fields of short term mind and long
> term memory -- and how will, governed by intention or desire, whether
> attentive or inattentive, can guide, through the brain's neurology,
> all the most delicate and precise neuromuscular controlled positions
> of the body.
> Leon Maurer
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