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Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?

Dec 16, 2008 12:31 PM
by christinaleestemaker

Dear All,
If I have read all written about this subject I came to this:
There is only one absolute reality which put out its manifestation 
only through the pralaya state into worlds and different times and in 
different ways.All the same in multidimensional vibrations.
So if we see on earth dark, everywere else it could be light or 
lighter, because it is light.Only question is why we see dark depends 
on the material influenze from this earth.Elsewere under influenze of 
astral,ether or subether makes only there other fews of the same 

How to make it difficult; Christina

--- In, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@...> wrote:
> Hi Cass,
> Yes, I think we've already broken through the last barrier toward  
> fulfilling HPB's prophesy in the very near future.  (Perhaps this 
> the great new change that the Mayan calendar has been telling us 
> coming around 2012... Not an end, but a beginning. ;-)
> The final proof will come when the ABC model can be demonstrated 
> fact beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Already research is being 
> that will demonstrate, so everyone can see and experience it, that  
> the universe is a hologram, and what we can know of it is already 
> our higher mind...  Pretty much the way HPB described it (if you 
> read the SD "in and around the words and between the lines" and 
> through all the "blinds").
> As for the previous universe and pralaya...
> All that it requires, is for the universe to continue to expand --  
> and lose entropy -- until everything in it dissolves back into the  
> aether or absolute space... With total metric space and its mass- 
> energy "particles" and their forms compacting into infinite zero- 
> (laya) points of spin momentum or "abstract motion" (while still  
> containing all the information as holographic wave interference  
> patterns)... While that aether, which in its overall nature is like 
> "Bose Einstein Condensate" (see remains ONE 
> "Whose center, when manifest, is everywhere and circumference 
> That "total space" (as Einstein called it) is the cosmic  
> "singularity" that reflects itself in every potentially conscious  
> black hole at the center of every universal form -- whose still  
> center, at absolute zero, during pralaya, is pure (sleeping)  
> potential cosmic consciousness and potential matter... Ready to 
> up again and go through another cosmogenesis, until we all 
> in the new cycle of life, to further evolve on a higher plane, and  
> take up where we left off in the previous manvantara ;-)  See:
> Note that the fractal involved field model of cosmogenesis  
> analogously applies to the physical universe as well as all the  
> galaxies and other forms of mass-energy, on down through our solar  
> system and planet, to the fundamental particles (spherical 
> waves) of light. See:
> (head on cross section of a single spherically polarized photon)
> And compare to: (cosmogenesis at the third Logos)
> For an interesting take on this, see Feynman's talk about light:
> All that -- putting together Einstein's general relativity, 
> quantum electrodynamics, Bohm-Pribram's' holographic paradigm, 
> Klien-Greene-Witten-Kaku's string and membrane physics -- 
> is "scientific"... And, all of it totally consistent with the ABC  
> model of cosmogenesis, based solely on the formulas in the Book of  
> Dzyan, as explained by HPB.
> Then, when pralaya is over (as the modern scientific pundits  
> speculate from their mathematics) -- the infinite new universes  
> (galaxies, solar systems, planets, bacteria, plants, animals, 
> etc,) spring up everywhere in their time and place, like spray in 
> ocean of waves... "As above, so below' and."The  microcosm(s) (is/ 
> are) the mirror(s) of the macrocosm" (as the ancient philosopher/ 
> scientist pundits say;-).
> So, the cosmos (like every universe) and every composite form, or  
> particle-wave in it, is a hologram -- within even larger holograms 
> ad infinitum.  And, as the Buddhist and Vedic philosophers say. 
> is Maya" or illusion.  (But, this cannot be "scientific," even 
> actual -- since conventional science can only deal with the 
> material or measurable universe).  So, what we need is a new  
> scientific paradigm -- which we might call "philosophical science" 
> "scientific philosophy" or maybe just plain "theosophy". ;-)
> Best wishes,
> Leon Maurer
> (NEW)
> On Dec 14, 2008, at 12/14/088:48 PM, Cass Silva wrote:
> > Hi Leon
> >
> > Science has finally come around to what HPB said 100 years ago.   
> > Still the problem remains - from where the previous universe - I  
> > guess Pralaya wouldn't explain it as it is a non-scientific  
> > concept.  Did HPB mention anything about conditions during 
> >
> > Cass
> >
> > ps  Just listened to a doco on Steven Hawking - he agrees with  
> > Greene's theory of multi-dimensional vibration strings (rather 
> > particles) and says it explains why gravity is weaker in our 3  
> > dimensions because it has travelled through 8 others.  They are  
> > more or less stating that Quantum Mechanics explains gravity at 
> > quantum level ( at the smallest) and marries it with Relativity 
> > the largest) and Hawkings Black Hole Theory
> >
> > If I understood it correctly they cannot explain what they call  
> > 'the singularity' other than to say the symmetry was broken and 
> > now toying with the idea of universes not unlike particles, just  
> > popping in and out of existence!   And this from the greatest 
> > of modern science.
> >
> > Cass
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@...>
> > To: jcs-online Study forum <>
> > Sent: Sunday, 14 December, 2008 6:09:51 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
> >
> >
> > Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
> >
> > http://www.newscien article/mg200268 61.500-did- our-
> > exist-before- the-big-bang. html?DCMP= NLC-nletter&  
> > nsref=mg20026861 .500
> >
> > http://tinyurl. com/5tkvfb
> >
> > Very likely -- if the ABC fractal involved holographic field 
model of
> > periodic cosmogenesis is correct.
> >
> > Leon Maurer
> > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13
> > "Note: This canonizer topic ("HARD PROBLEM") enables us to 
> > compare theories and models of consciousness and its 
> > with mind, memory, brain, body, senses, etc.. If you agree with 
> > ABC theory of cosmogenesis -- postulating consciousness as an a
> > priori quality of ubiquitous absolute space (or any other 
> > theory) please feel free to sign on to add your support or, if you
> > have anything to add or contribute to the topic, or wish to post 
> > own theory, open a new sub-camp or camp statement."
> > http://www.tellworl Biological. Coenergetics/
> >
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> >
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