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Re: [theos-l] TS - Current Condition - Comments by a well-known member

Nov 30, 2008 03:53 PM
by Warwick Keys

I suppose that I am one supposedly involved in the "secrecy in the 
GC." That certainly makes me scratch my head. I can only shake my 
head in wonder at the curious antics, emotive language and lack of 
any real and deep understanding of brotherhood expressed at times on 
this website. I early came to the conclusion that the site does allow 
some people to let off steam about their concerns. However, much of 
it is shadow boxing and the seeing all sorts of hidden motivations of 
others which are in truth without substantial foundation. 

I, like all other GC members and other responsible TS leaders, do not 
try to enter discussion at this level. I am doing so this once - once 
only - to express as a total newcomer to the General Council, coming 
without any baggage, my disappointment at the  negative level of 
responsible discussion, the over emotive language often used and the 
agenda driven nature of the 'discussion.' 

Some correspondents will be starting to jump up and down and howl at 
what I am saying. So be it. That only goes to support my 

What many of these correspondents (who are actually few in number but 
who dominate the site)do reveal to the discerning and objective 
observer is their own inner condition.

Correspondents wonder why the mysterious GC 'leaders' do not respond. 
The answer stares any discerning observer in the face. It simply is 
not worth attempting to communincate with such correspondents who 
have a disarming habit of not really listening, show little 
discernment and pick and choose their responses.

I am disappointed and sad to be led to say these things, but I felt 
that I should express my disappointment and concern at the lack of 
reasonable discourse at times and the one-eyed attitudes expressed by 
Theosophists on this site.

I am expressing this sad disappointment once only and do not not 
intent to enter into unproductive and negative dialogue. I would 
earnestly request those concerned, they know who they are, 
to 'listen' with the ear of inner discernment. Your further actions 
will clearly define how well you listened.

Warwick Keys

--- In, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
> I too am wondering how she was motivated to write the article 
especially at
> a time ordinary members do not know about what else may be going on 
> secrecy in the GC.
> Also for someone who resides in Krotona to come out and comment is 
> I have sent a copy of my original post to her for info.
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 7:17 PM, <Drpsionic@...> wrote:
> >    Shirley is not a person normally given to any public 
statements so I'm
> > not surprised that she was not forthcoming earlier.  The fact 
that she wrote
> > this is quite unusual.
> >
> > Chuck the Heretic
> >
> >  In a message dated 11/29/2008 2:22:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > mkr777@... writes:
> >
> >   In the recent Messenger (official supplement to the Quest 
> > Shirley J Nicholson writes:
> >
> > "..the downside of independent thinking can lead to dissension and
> > disharmony" and "During normal times in the TS, the tension 
between these
> > two concepts is not so great. But occasionally, as in the recent 
> > there are strong feelings about what is best for the Society. 
Such a
> > conflict world-wide can develop into a split among Theosophists 
that can
> > lead a split in the Society. This has happened more than once in 
the history
> > of the TS."
> >
> > Shirley is a well-respected and highly regarded long-time member 
of TS and
> > currently Executive Vice President of Krotona Institute of 
> >
> > It makes me wonder if she has been following what has been going 
on in the
> > international election since last December. Early in the 
campaign, members
> > were provided with inaccurate and possibly misleading information 
> > the mental and physical health of Radha Burnier for the purpose 
of defeating
> > her in the election.
> >
> > As all of you know, later three highly reputed and well regarded 
> > from two continents (one physician is also a highly regarded long 
> > member and General Secretary of Slovenia) declared her fit. Even 
with this
> > incontrovertible fact, this information was not passed on to the 
> > members to keep the members with no access to Internet informed.  
In all
> > fairness and justice, this should have been done.
> >
> > Of course, all of us here were kept current minute by minute on 
the facts.
> > (I am copying this msg to Shirley and hope she subscribes to this 
> > to keep abreast of the TS developments.)
> >
> > Also, soon after the election, we were surprised by the ultra 
> > proposal by a small group of GC members to speedily 
disenfranchise all of us
> > and this group to speedily seize the control of the presidency 
and make the
> > president a puppet. Even now,  we are all kept in the dark about 
what is
> > going on behind the scenes and what else is being cooked by the 
GC members
> > behind the scenes. None of them is talking. Having observed what 
> > happened since last December, silence is not peace. Are we having 
a calm
> > before the storm? I do not know. Many be a clairvoyant can help.
> >
> > One wonders why people like Shirley have been silent when  
injustice was
> > going on and attempts were in foot to disenfranchise all of us 
and a small
> > group attempting to seize control of TS.
> >
> >
> > MKR
> >
> >
> > Too keep currrent on TS matters go to:
> >
> > <>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > .
> >  
> >
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