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Re: Theos-World Leadbeater's birthdate - why ask?

Nov 03, 2008 04:19 PM
by Drpsionic

Well, at least folks can agree that he was born and not hatched.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 11/3/2008 11:20:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, writes:

Gregory Tillett in July 2007 published on
Theos-Talk the following  helpful summary
concerning when Leadbeater was  born:

Leadbeater's  birthdate - why ask?

Arguments suggesting some "mix up" or inadequacy  in documents 
relating to Leadbeater's birth date are patently nonsense  which can 
only be peddled by the profoundly ignorant or the manifestly  

The evidence for the birthdate of 1854, in summary,  consists of:

1. the registration of the birth at the Stockport Registry  Office
[information provided by Leadbeater's Father];
2. the birth  certificate subsequently issued [information provided by
Leadbeater's  Father];
3. the registration of the Baptism in Stockport Parish Church  
provided by Leadbeater's Father];
4. the information  reported for the census return submitted by
Leadbeater's father in  1861;
5. the information reported for the census return submitted  by
Leadbeater's father in 1871;
6. the age for Leadbeater included on  the death certificate for
Leadbeater's father [information provided by  Leadbeater's mother];
7. the information provided to Anglican Diocesan  authorities when
Leadbeater applied for ordination [information provided by  
8. the information reported for the census return  submitted by 
in 1881;
9. the age for Leadbeater included  on the death certificate for
Leadbeater's mother [information provided by  Leadbeater].

I note that sources 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 9 involved the  submission of
information to an official source as required by law, and  with severe
penalties applied for providing false information. Thus, in  sources 8 
and 9 Leadbeater himself made a formal declaration under penalty  of 
law declaring himself to be of an age which required that the year of  
his birth was 1854. He either then committed perjury â or 
subsequently  lied about his age.

The TS (Adyar) position on Leadbeater's birthdate  now seems ambiguous.
Some of his books reproduced by the TPH include the  dates 1847-1935; 
some simply refer to the date of his death  (1934).

Hugh Shearman of the (Adyar) TS and a Priest of the Liberal  Catholic
Church, in a pamphlet biography also reproduced as an introduction  to 
a Liberal Catholic Church publication of Leadbeater's "The  Christian
Gnosis", accepted the 1854 date.

Peter Michel (a  Leadbeater defender) in his "Charles W. Leadbeater. 
Mit den Augen des  Geistes. Die Biographie eines grossen Eingeweihten"
(Aquarian Verlag,  Voglherd: 1998), undertook detailed research 
intended to prove the false  date, but accepted the 1854 date.

Robert Ellwood (of the Adyar TS and a  Liberal Catholic Priest) seems 
to accept the 1854 date for his  biographical entry on Leadbeater in 
the recent "Theosophical Encyclopedia"  (2006:367).

Pedro Oliveria (an employee of the TS(Adyar) in Australia  and a 
Liberal Catholic bishop) accepts the 1854 date on his website about  
Leadbeater [_http://www.cwlworldhttp://www.http://w_ 
( ]  declaring that 
Leadbeater "was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England, on 16  February 
1854, to Charles and Emma Leadbeater. This date of birth was  given in 
the English census of 1861, 1871 and 1881. After his mother died,  in 
May 1882, his date of birth was given as 17 February 1847 and it  
appears in the 1891 census. This was also the date he used in his  
passport. His reason for using a different date of birth is not 
known,  although research about it continues."

The Liberal Catholic Church,  after having resolved at its General
Episcopal Synod meeting in Sydney in  the latter half of 1996 that
Leadbeater was born in 1847, despite apparent  evidence to the 
contrary, in the "Table of Apostolic Succession in the  Liberal 
Catholic Church including Relevant Episcopal Consecrations,  
Appointments and Jurisdiction 1719 â 2002" (The St Alban Press,  
London, 2003) bearing the imprimatur of the then Presiding Bishop, 
Ian  Hooker, now states that Leadbeater was born on 16 February, 1854.

Dr  Gregory  Tillett

See  also Dr. Gregory's work at:

_http://leadbeater.htt_ ( 


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