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Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo research

Oct 28, 2008 00:49 AM
by Augoeides-222

   Well I can give you more data below from the Ulysses website:

>>>The following is a sample of findings described in more than 1,300 scientific papers: 
The sun casts both fast and slow winds of solar particles; the speedier from the sun's poles, and the slower from the equatorial region. 
Fast solar wind originates in regions of low coronal temperature and slow wind in regions of high temperature contrary to expectation. 
Fast solar wind of 700 km/sec is continuously present in the Sun's polar caps except near solar maximum when the polar coronal holes disappear. 
The Sun's "bar magnet" dipole simply rotates through 180° from sunspot minimum to sunspot minimum to achieve the polarity reversal 
The radial magnetic field component is independent of helio-latitude. 
The flux of Galactic Cosmic Rays is essentially the same over the polar caps as at the solar equator. Cosmic rays would have had easy access to the polar caps except for the large amplitude waves characteristic of the fast high latitude solar wind. 
A north-south asymmetry in the heliosphere during solar minimum results in a displacement of the heliospheric current sheet and the cosmic ray equator by about 10°. 
Ulysses directly measured interstellar gas for the first time, hinting at the presence of a "bow shock" for interstellar radiation beyond the heliosphere. 
The abundances of neutral interstellar atoms (Hydrogen, Helium, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Neon) have been inferred from observations of their ionization and pickup by the heliospheric magnetic field. 
The lengths of comet tails can exceed an Astronomical Unit. 
Gamma radiation from a magnetar, a collapsed star characterized by exceptionally intense magnetic fields, was detected and the time dependence of the radiation observed. 
Large interstellar dust particles make up about 2 percent of all mass between stars.<<<
If you use the metaphor of our personal Aura and imagine the same being seen as a subtle aura first around the Earth that is actually the Earth's Magnetic field. The Solar Wind of our Sun radiates continuously in all directions from the Sun like the Vital Breath we speak of in Theosophy. But the Radiation from the Sun is very strong  and it runs into the protective Magnetic field of the Earth and producess the polar Aurora's so the full strength never reaches to the ground level. When diagramed in graphic form the Earth's magnetic shield appears somewhat like the figure of the hooded spectre with the Earth where the face would be. We cannot see this with our normal vision. The Shield buffers away the high energy particles, gas , and plasma that make up the Solar Wind or Breath and it flows around the Magnetic Shield of the Earth and continues on out  to Jupiter where Ulysses takes it readings of the Solar Wind flow rate and densities and then continues out to Pluto and beyond beyon
d where it reaches the space limit of the Sun's Heliosphere ( Aura limit-- like a balloon that has the Sun in it's center.). At that point where the skin of the Sun's Heliospheric Balloon of Plasma,Gases and Particles is the Galactic Interface, again imagine an Aura metaphorically the surface of a balloon is firm to our touch such is the case with the edge of the Sun's Heliosphere relative to deep space density, and it, like the magnetic Field Shield around the Earth also takes the form of an invisible hooded spectre that has also a "Bow Shock Wave " that flattens the rounded top of the hood and again like in the Earth's case the Cosmic Radiation of Cosmic and Gamma and other very high energy proton and photons  etc are caused to flow around and past the Sun's Heliospheric Limit protecting us again on the level of magnitude.
     The reading that show the reduction of the Solar Wind Density and Pressure indicate an internal change of the Sun that is apparently coupled with the change in the last Solar Cycle 0f 22 years that involved the regular and normal magnetic  Polarity of the Sun's North and South Magnetic Polarity ( the magneticc poles change the + _ through the cleansing of the Positive polarity in the overall sun globe which reorganizes the relative Magnetic poles of the Sun. Because the Rate of density changed and the flow rate changed and with it the pressure of the Heliosphere also changed at the Limit which caused shrinkage of the Balloon. This will not at this time effect the Earth but out at Jupiter and the other large Gas Planets it may shrink to where they are bathed in more Cosmic Radiation ifthe Ballon remains reduced, but the Earth is safe at the present time and there is no need to be overly concerned.

  Google "Ulysses", "Heliosphere",  "Solar Wind", Soho" (the satellite which reads the close environment of the Sun), Nasa Satellites".
   I hope this helps.

John  ----------- Original message -------------- 
From: Cass Silva <> 
John, in layman's terms what does this mean?

From: "" <>
Sent: Saturday, 25 October, 2008 2:38:23 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo research

Here is the NASA Report:

Dwayne Brown 
Headquarters, Washington 

DC Agle 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 
agle@jpl.nasa. gov 

Sept. 23, 2008

RELEASE : 08-241 

Ulysses Reveals Global Solar Wind Plasma Output At 50-Year Low 

WASHINGTON -- Data from the Ulysses spacecraft, a joint NASA-European Space Agency mission, show the sun has reduced its output of solar wind to the lowest levels since accurate readings became available. The sun's current state could reduce the natural shielding that envelops our solar system. 

"The sun's million mile-per-hour solar wind inflates a protective bubble, or heliosphere, around the solar system. It influences how things work here on Earth and even out at the boundary of our solar system where it meets the galaxy," said Dave McComas, Ulysses' solar wind instrument principal investigator and senior executive director at the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio. "Ulysses data indicate the solar wind's global pressure is the lowest we have seen since the beginning of the space age." 

The sun's solar wind plasma is a stream of charged particles ejected from the sun's upper atmosphere. The solar wind interacts with every planet in our solar system. It also defines the border between our solar system and interstellar space. 
This border, called the heliopause, surrounds our solar system where the solar wind's strength is no longer great enough to push back the wind of other stars. The region around the heliopause also acts as a shield for our solar system, warding off a significant portion of the cosmic rays outside the galaxy. 

"Galactic cosmic rays carry with them radiation from other parts of our galaxy," said Ed Smith, NASA's Ulysses project scientist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "With the solar wind at an all-time low, there is an excellent chance the heliosphere will diminish in size and strength. If that occurs, more galactic cosmic rays will make it into the inner part of our solar system." 

Galactic cosmic rays are of great interest to NASA. Cosmic rays are linked to engineering decisions for unmanned interplanetary spacecraft and exposure limits for astronauts traveling beyond low-Earth orbit. 

In 2007, Ulysses made its third rapid scan of the solar wind and magnetic field from the sun's south to north pole. When the results were compared with observations from the previous solar cycle, the strength of the solar wind pressure and the magnetic field embedded in the solar wind were found to have decreased by 20 percent. The field strength near the spacecraft has decreased by 36 percent. 
"The sun cycles between periods of great activity and lesser activity," Smith said. "Right now, we are in a period of minimal activity that has stretched on longer than anyone anticipated. " 

Ulysses was the first mission to survey the space environment over the sun's poles. Data Ulysses has returned have forever changed the way scientists view our star and its effects. The venerable spacecraft has lasted more than 18 years, or almost four times its expected mission lifetime. The Ulysses solar wind findings were published in a recent edition of Geophysical Research Letters. 

The Ulysses spacecraft was carried into Earth orbit aboard space shuttle Discovery on Oct. 6, 1990. From Earth orbit it was propelled toward Jupiter, passing the planet on Feb. 8, 1992. Jupiter's immense gravity bent the spacecraft's flight path downward and away from the plane of the planets' orbits. This placed Ulysses into a final orbit around the sun that would take it over its north and south poles. 

The Ulysses spacecraft was provided by ESA, having been built by Astrium GmbH (formerly Dornier Systems) of Friedrichshafen, Germany. NASA provided the launch vehicle and the upper stage boosters. The U.S. Department of Energy supplied a radioisotope thermoelectric generator to power the spacecraft. Science instruments were provided by U.S. and European investigators. The spacecraft is operated from JPL by a joint NASA-ESA team. 

More information about the Ulysses mission is available on the Web at: 

http://ulysses. jpl.nasa. gov 


------------ -- Original message ------------ -- 
From: Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo. com> 
Here you go dr. Cass:

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Saltation_(biology)

Also check out this thread on Godlike productions and the fear solving message in the daily Telegraph:

In biology, saltation (from Latin, saltus, "leap") is a sudden change
from one generation to the next, that is large, or very large, in
comparison with the usual variation of an organism. The term is used
for occasionally hypothesized, nongradual changes (especially
single-step speciation) that are atypical of, or violate, standard
concepts involved in neo-Darwinian evolution. The unorthodox emphasis
on saltation as a means of evolutionary change is called saltationism.

In popular culture, a form of saltation appears to have emerged from
misconceptions over currently accepted theories of evolution (the X-men
and its various spin-offs being the most egregious examples).

http://www.godlikep roductions. com/forum1/ message642185/ pg1

http://www.telegrap main.jhtml? view=DETAILS& grid=&xml= /earth/2008/ 10/22/scimind122 .xml

--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo research
To: theos-talk@yahoogro
Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:51 AM

Also it will prove that we are the ancestors of the apes and not the other way around - can you expand on the heliosphere


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From: Martin <Mvandertak@ yahoo. com>

To: theos-talk@yahoogro

Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 7:03:37 PM

Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo research

I wonder if the Solar Lords will dig this, they didn't in Atlantis...the sun is btw very quiet at the moment and its heliosphere has shrunk more than 25% the last 25 years...this could mean part destruction of this earth by cosmic fire.

--- On Thu, 10/23/08, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo.> wrote:

From: nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo.>

Subject: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo research

To: theos-talk@yahoogro

Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:49 AM

Britain's lower house of parliament has approved legislation allowing 

scientists to create animal-human embryos for medical research, in 

the biggest shake-up of embryology laws in two decades.

Despite opposition from religious and pro-life groups, MPs in the 

House of Commons today backed the Human Embryology and Fertilisation 

Bill by 355 votes to 129. 

It will now go to a vote in the House of Lords, and could be law by 


The wide-ranging bill, which has been debated for months, would also 

allow "saviour siblings" - children created as a close genetic match 

for a sick brother or sister so their genetic material can help treat 


In addition, it gives lesbians and single women easier access to in-

vitro fertilisation (IVF) treatment by removing requirements for 

clinics to consider a child's need for a father.

Health Minister Dawn Primarolo told MPs the bill was about helping 

the one in seven couples who needed fertility assistance, and about 

research to deal with diseases such as Alzheimer's, which affects 

350,000 Britons.

Hybrid embryos, created by inserting the nuclei of a human cell into 

an animal egg, can ensure a more plentiful supply of stem cells for 

use in research into treating conditions like Alzheimer's and 


"It is about research to deal with the dreadful diseases and the 

debilitating attacks on their health from which many in our society 

suffer," the minister told MPs.

"The bill is about combining science with an ethical framework that 

works on behalf of humankind."

Prime Minister Gordon Brown is a strong defender of the measures, 

saying Britain owes it to future generations. His son Fraser has 

cystic fibrosis, a disease that could one day benefit from embryo 


However, 16 MPs from his ruling Labour party, including former 

minister Ruth Kelly, a staunch Catholic who quit the government this 

month, voted against the bill and religious groups warned it was the 

next step on a "slippery slope".

Nadine Dorries, a member of the opposition Conservative Party, told 

her fellow MPs that loopholes in the legislation raised the 

possibility of scientists attempting cross-breeding between humans 

and animals.

"Of all the experimental possibilities debated in the course of this 

bill, surely none is quite so utterly repulsive as the possibility of 

seeking to inseminate animals with human sperm," she said.

The debate was overshadowed by complaints from all sides that the 

government had blocked a discussion on reforming the abortion laws. 

Ministers suggested they did not think the current bill was the right 

time to do this.


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