Re: Theos-World Why not loyal to the compound or the bathroom of Adyar?
Oct 25, 2008 08:02 AM
Does Adyar even have a bathroom?
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 10/25/2008 4:55:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
To all readers
My views are:
There is no longer a 'Parent Society'...
The following was written out of compassion to all interested readers to if
possible be of service and help.
The thoughtful and meditating reader might understand more about the present
situation on theosophy by reading the below.
H. P. Blavatsky wrote august 1889:
"There is no longer a 'Parent Society;' it is abolished and replaced
by an aggregate body of Theosophical Societies, all
autonomous..autonomous..<WBR>.such is the real
What made her write the above?
Maybe the below words could be helpful in understanding some of it all.
A PUZZLE FROM ADYAR by H. P. Blavatsky, 1889 - (Try to read this article.)
"WHEN the cat is abroad the mice dance in the house it seems. Since Colonel
Olcott sailed for Japan, the Theosophist has never ceased to surprise its
European readers, and especially the Fellows of our Society, with most
It is as if the Sphinx had emigrated from the Nile and was determined to
continue offering her puzzles broadcast to
the Odipuses of the Society."
"That the E.S. had never any pretensions to "boss the T.S." stands to
reason: with the exception of Col. Olcott, the President, the Esoteric Section has
nothing whatever to do with the Theosophical Society, its Council or
officers. It is a Section entirely apart from the exoteric body, and independent of
it, H.P.B. alone being responsible for its members, as shown in the official
announcement over the signature of the President-Founder himself.* It follows,
therefore, that the E. S., as a body, owes no allegiance whatever to the
Theosophical Society, as a society, least of all to Adyar."
"It is pure nonsense to say that "H.P.B. . . . is loyal to the Theosophical
Society and to Adyar" (!?) . H.P.B. is loyal to death to the Theosophical
CAUSE, and those great Teachers whose philosophy can alone bind the whole
Humanity into one Brotherhood. Together with Col. Olcott, she is the chief Founder
and Builder of the Society which was and is meant to represent that CAUSE;
and if she is so loyal to H.S. Olcott, it is not at all because of his being
its "President," but, firstly, because there is no man living who has worked
harder for that Society, or been more devoted to it than the Colonel, and,
secondly, because she regards him as a loyal
friend and co-worker. Therefore the degree of her sympathies with the
"Theosophical Society and Adyar" depends upon the degree of the loyalty of that
Society to the CAUSE. Let it break away from the original lines and show
disloyalty in its policy to the CAUSE and the original programme of the Society, and
H.P.B. calling the T.S. disloyal, will shake it off like dust from her feet.
And what does "loyalty to Adyar" mean, in the name of all wonders? What is
Adyar, apart from that CAUSE and the two (not one Founder, if you please) who
represent it? Why not loyal to the compound or the bathroom of Adyar?"
"Adyar is the present Headquarters of the Society, because these
"Headquarters are wherever the President is," as stated in the rules.
To be logical, the Fellows of the T.S. had to be loyal to Japan while Col.
Olcott was there, and to London during his presence here. There is no longer a
"Parent Society"; it is abolished and replaced by an aggregate body of
Theosophical Societies, all autonomous, as are the States of America, and all
under one Head-President, who, together with H. P. Blavatsky, will champion the
CAUSE against the whole world. Such is the real state of things."
Taking the above comments into consideration, and while We also know, that
C. W. Leadbeater was left in charge in India - august 1888, when Olcott went
abroad to Japan, Blavatsky's words are quite interesting. And that Annie
Besant joined a short while after visiting H. P. Blavatsky in may 10th 1889.
OLcott wrote in his Old Dairy Leaves:
"Nor was Madame Blavatsky any more than myself the "Founder" of the Society:
neither of us was anything more than a willing agent. . . . it was I who
proposed the formation of the Society, who had all the early burden of guiding
its infant steps, and who, after the collapse of the original legislative
scheme of Rules and Bye-Laws, had . . . all the executive responsibility. . . .
Yet she was the intermediary between them [the adepts] and me, thus earning my
lifelong gratitude, as she long ago did by brotherly love and loyalty. . . .
Like the active volcano, she throws out a good deal
of lava, scori\v and sulphur, but like it she often uncovers gold and silver
veins of arcane truth for those who are not too blind to see it. -- The
Theosophist, September 1889"
Historical Perspective - By Kirby Van Mater
"During these years of Mme. Blavatsky's retirement from direct participation
in theosophical affairs (1885-87), the Society had drifted away from the
influence of the Adepts. This is apparent from a conversation she had with one
of her teachers where he remarked that Colonel Olcott in spite of his great
labors had during this time allowed the T.S. to liberate itself from their
influence, and that it would not long survive his death (cf. Letters from the
Masters of the Wisdom, First Series, Letter 47, 5th edition). Though the date of
this discussion is not given, it can be placed approximately in the closing
months of 1887 or early 1888. From this time onward till her death in 1891,
H. P. Blavatsky played an increasingly significant role in the Society's
administration so as to reestablish and maintain the work along the
original lines. This caused some unhappiness and misunderstanding between
herself and Colonel Olcott. Eventually, in 1890, much distressed over
circumstances, he stated that he would resign as president at the next convention in
However, at the final moment he announced a change of mind and retained his
position in the Society, though his views and lack of confidence in H.P.B.'s
methods of work remained unchanged."
Blavatsky wrote in 1886 or so:
The following written by Blavatsky is also true today:
". . . . . It would be well perhaps, if the Jesuits contented themselves
with making dupes of Freemasons and opposing
the Theosophists and Occultists using for it the Protestant clergy as "cat's
paw." But their plottings have a much
wider scope, and embrace a minuteness of detail and care of which the world
in general has no idea. Everything is done
by them to bring the mass of mankind again to the state of passive ignorance
which they well know is the only one which
can help them to the consummation of their purpose of Universal Despotism."
H. P. Blavats
Blavatsky also wrote about the JESUITS in june 1888 :
"They may try, and perhaps succeed, in crushing individual members. They
would vainly try their hand, strong and powerful as it may be, in an attack on
the Society. Theosophists are as well protected, and better, than themselves.
To the man of modern science, to all those who know nothing, and who do not
believe what they hear of WHITE and BLACK magic, the above will read like
nonsense. Let it be, though Europe will very soon experience, and is already so
experiencing, the heavy hand of the latter. "
Was she talking about the World Wars, Hitler, The Catholic Church's
agreements with politicians, and The Christian fanatics?
So the question is where are we today?
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