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Re: Theos-World Re: Countess Blavatskaya

Oct 16, 2008 04:28 AM
by MKR

Many of those who post jokingly about HPB are long time members and know
what real theosophy is and practice it in their daily life. They do not hold
any offices.

Those of us who have read the early history of TS, know HPB's sacrifices.
(She did not take up the TS project  after a comfortable retirement from
another full-time job, she sacrificed prime of her life). Travel, food  and
accommodation in India in those days were quite difficult for a Westerner
and both HPB and HSO never complained about it since they did not go there
to enjoy a vacation.

The had a mission, which was hard from every point of view. They both
understood what the Adepts meant when when they were told that the success
or failure of TS has a bearing on the salvation or failure of future of

Compare this to the whining and complaining by some of today's so called
"theosophists" who say how they cannot live at Adyar. Today Chennai,  the
city where Adyar is located,  is a buzzing modern Industrial and Business
hub where you can get conveniences comparable to anywhere in the world.

So this contrast simply tells us that to many of today's theosophists,
theosophy just seems to be another  entertainment to keep them busy after
retirement. If people cannot sacrifice, they should stop meddling, and  they
should get out of the way, and let others who are willing take up the work
do the work. In my opinion, obstruction and selfishness are sure signs of
Dugpas and Shammars activity impeding the work of TS.

Any feedback?
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Richard Semock <> wrote:

>   There is quite a cult of personality grown up about the founder but
> do not let that obscure her real purpose which was the dissemination
> of the ancient wisdom by the masters of the wisdom. HPB was uniquely
> fitted for the mission and that is why she was chosen by them for the
> task.
> That is of course, if you believe in the masters and their ancient
> wisdom that they went to great lengths to demonstrate and offer
> prooofs about thru her. HPB was all about being a channel for the
> hidden knowledge but her gargantuan personality sometimes is
> mistakenly given center stage.
> --- In <>,
> Drpsionic@... wrote:
> >
> > It was impossible to grow up in the US in the 1960s and have any
> interest in
> > the Occult without running into references to HPB but I pretty much
> passed
> > them over as stuff from a previous century. And somewhere along
> the line I
> > ran into a letter my family has written by my great great
> grandfather when he
> > was fighting with Garibaldi about a strange Russian noblewoman who
> ran the
> > brothel.
> >
> > Anyway, after a rather convoluted series of events I found myself
> in the TS
> > and paying a bit more attention to the biography of HPB and there
> was this
> > story about Garibaldi. And I wonder how many Russian noblewomen
> were with
> > Garibaldi and maybe someone was changing the story a bit.
> >
> > But hell, no one ever accused me of being a prude, not with my
> lifestyle,
> > and the story I think is true only makes her more interesting to me
> for a simple
> > reason. Blavatsky was not a statue in a church, not a saint, not
> a
> > goddess. She was a living, breathing human being.
> >
> > And in my decades in the TS I keep hearing stuff claimed about her
> that sort
> > of makes my head spin. There are people who will go berserk at
> the thought
> > that she might have had, gasp, sex. And there is the little
> matter of the
> > drug use, even though it was a pain killer and she needed pain
> killers. Her
> > body did not like her in her later years.
> >
> > She never intended that her ideas be holy writ, though she could
> get
> > downright abusive to those who had the temerity to remind her of
> that. And she
> > could be wrong, dead wrong about some things. And being a person
> of her time she
> > would naturally have ideas that would not stand the test of time.
> Her words
> > are to be taken as what they are, words, to be studied, questioned
> and in
> > the end either accepted or not. They are not golden drippings
> from the nose of
> > god, in spite of the ravings of the Judge worshippers. And they
> are not the
> > last word for the simple reason that there is no last word. And
> those who
> > regard her in that way do her a great disservice because when her
> human
> > weaknesses are discovered, there are people who get very
> disappointed. Better to
> > know that there is no idol than to have it fall over on you.
> >
> > Better to admire her for what she was, a person of extraordinary
> energy and
> > knowledge whose presence still looms over the world, who is a
> source of
> > inspiration for us and of horror to our enemies. Let us honor her
> for that and at
> > the same time have a good laugh at the extreme gravity of her
> person which
> > could break chairs and capsize boats if she looked over the side.
> (I used to
> > joke that she was the reason my family ended up in America because
> she caused
> > the Great Pasta Famine.)
> >
> > And let us never, ever forget her humanity.
> >
> > Chuck the Heretic
> >
> >
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