Re: Theos-World Letter to the International President of the TS
Oct 11, 2008 11:08 PM
by Anton Rozman
I presume that you are replying to my message.
I can agree that Elvira Carbonell's letter had some influence on the
nomination and election process. But in analyzing "Election Campaign
Letters" Govert and I agreed that it didn't represent the violation
of TS Rules and Regulations.
In my view any such letter (also in the case it would really
represent the violation of TS Rules and Regulations) can not be a
justified reason for further violation of TS Rules and Regulations
but for the constitutional intervention of the Election and the
Further on, I presume that there was and still is present exchange of
countless unrevealed e-mails between high TS officials on
international and sections levels what gives an impression that
within the Theosophical Society there is present well established
parallel information and decision making system shared by two
The composition of the Executive Committee reveals that it is
prevalently composed out of members of the administration. With its
after elections statement the Executive Committee revealed, in my
opinion, the role which transcends that designed by the TS Rules and
Regulations. Please, read my comments of the Election process and
John Algeo's and Joy Mills' letters to the Executive Committee.
You have perfect right to think that my claims that the General
Council and the Executive Committee are not performing their
constitutional role are an insult and that my claims that the
President letter represented the violation of the TS Rules and
Regulations and that it gave way to further violations of the by-laws
as baseless and unjust but, please, try to understand that I am
trying to analyze the situation with some objective measures and that
I am discovering that we can not reconcile current situation within
the Society with the spirit of its Constitution and its first object
of Brotherhood. I don't think that my views are absolutely
unconditioned or the only possible one; on the contrary, I would be
very happy to see as many as possible impersonal and un-biased
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Pedro Oliveira" <prmoliveira@...>
> --- In email@example.com, "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@>
> > Let's be honest. Let' see the facts.
> According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a fact is a "thing
> certainly known to have occurred or be true, datum of experience."
> > It is a fact that actual President was the first one who violated
> > TS Rules and Regulations in the past election process.
> If you look at your own website
> (http://teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/Elections_2008.htm) under
> heading "Election Campaign Letters", you will see that the first
> letter which was sent out to General Council members was Elvira
> Carbonell's letter of 19 December 2007. In her letter she says,
> other things:
> "Since there has been uncertainty about the state of our President's
> health and our Vice-President's willingness and ability to accept
> nominations for the upcoming Presidential election, several of us at
> Adyar feel the need to write to members of the General Council to
> share the following information.
> We have learned that our Vice-President has been asked if he will
> accept nominations, and have confirmation from him that although he
> not eager to run for President, he will do what seems to be in the
> best interest of the Society when the time comes, and he will accept
> This letter was sent by Carbonell by email while the International
> Secretary sent out the nomination papers to GC members by ordinary
> mail correspondence on 18 December 2007. This means that when the
> majority of GC members, who were not at Adyar at that time, received
> their official nomination papers from the Secretary they had already
> received Carbonell's letter.
> Her letter is a concrete, irrefutable evidence that John Algeo was
> contact with some key Adyar workers who were evidently helping him
> with his campaign even BEFORE the actual elections took place.
> Neither the President nor a number of GC members who were at Adyar
> received a copy of Carbonell's letter. Please note that Carbonell
> not act alone and that other workers at Adyar were also writing
> letters to GC members, as the expression "several of us at Adyar" in
> Carbonell's letter indicates.
> Therefore, John Algeo, the Vice-President of the TS, without the
> knowledge of the President, who had nominated him three times for
> position, and liaising with some workers at Adyar, agreed to accept
> nominations for the position of President BEFORE the majority of GC
> members had even received their nomination papers. As a result of
> concerted plan of action, which used aspects of the President's
> as a form of political manipulation, John Algeo was clearly placed
> an advantageous position in the nomination process which included
> General Council members in many countries.
> It is a fact
> > that the Executive Committee isn't composed and doesn't act
> > to the TS Rules and Regulations as a body of the General Council
> > as an extended arm of the President and her administration. It is
> > fact that the President and the Executive Committee completely
> > complaints of some members of the General Council.
> According to the Rules of the Theosophical Society, the Executive
> Committee is appointed annually by the General Council as per the
> 14. Appointment of Executive Committee
> (a) The General Council shall at each Annual Meeting appoint an
> Executive Committee for the ensuing year or until its next Annual
> Meeting, of not less than seven and not more than ten members, of
> at least six shall be members of the General Council. The President,
> the Vice-President, the Treasurer, and the Secretary shall be
> ex-officio members. Vacancies caused by death or resignation or
> otherwise may be filled by co-option.
> So when you say that the EC is "an extended arm of the President"
> are insulting the authority of the General Council of the
> Society for the composition of the EC is derived from an appointment
> by the GC.
> > On the other hand is a fact that in past elections general
> > of the TS Rules and Regulations and an unethical behavior
> > the action of the President.
> Anyone who reads Elvira Carbonell's letter of 19 December 2007 and
> understands its context will be able to see that your above
> against the President of the Theosophical Society, which you have
> repeated several times, is baseless, unwarranted and unjust.
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