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Re: Theos-World Re: Blog taken offline?

Oct 06, 2008 10:08 AM
by Erica Letzerich

Dear Anton,

Thank you for the explanation. Please do inform us if you upload all the contents of the blog in your site.  


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Anton Rozman <> wrote:
From: Anton Rozman <>
Subject: Theos-World Re: Blog taken offline?
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 12:50 PM

            Dear friends,

I would like to futher elucidate a little the situation with 

the "Theosophy Forward" blog from my perspective. 

In first days of July it came to my notice (on theos_trans group 

which is dedicated to the translation of theosophical texts in Non-

English languages) that John Algeo is sharing his views in regard to 

past Elections with some of his friends. As I was interested to 

publish these letters I contacted John and ask him for the permission 

to publish them on my site. He said that he would agree under two 

conditions: that letters would be available only to TS members and 

that they can not be copied. As these conditions were reasonable to 

me and as I hoped that in that way some basic communication between 

leaders and members can be established, I created restricted TS 

Members Area, encrypted the files and publish them. 

Only few days ago, on October 2, I realized that there was 

created "Theosophy Forward" blog where these letters were now freely 

available to the public. I contacted John and proposed that I remove 

the restriction to the TS Members Area and make links to the relative 

letters present on the blog. He replied that he wasn't sure that blog 

is already online, but agreed with my proposal. 

Yesterday, on October 5, I received John's message that blog was 

taken offline because of some problems and that I can republish the 

documents as I find suitable.

My explanation of the situation is that after the publication of 

these letters on my site the idea to create a blog dedicated to the 

presentation of their views was born in John's informal circle and 

that steps were made to create it. I assume that the administrator 

put the blog online (probably he couldn't do otherwise as when a blog 

is created it is automatically online if some hosted service is used) 

and inserted mentioned letters using the dates when they were 

actually created. I assume further that all the conditions (probably 

similar as in the case of my web site) under which the documents will 

be presented on the blog were not determined yet and that therefore 

there was some frustration present with the fact that blog is already 

online. I think that these misunderstandings unfortunately lead to 

the decision to remove the blog from the net.

Warmest regards,


--- In theos-talk@yahoogro, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:


> Hi


> I learnt from reliable source that the site is closed down now, and 

won't be

> reopened.

> mkr


> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Katinka Hesselink <mail@...

> > wrote:


> >   Hi all,

> >

> > Hans Kind is the brother of Jan Kind. The latter is a theosophist,

> > married to Terezinha Kind who is prominent in the TS in Latin 


> > They met at Adyar. I know Jan. I don't know Hans. They are both 


> > Hans set the whole thing up. Jan Kind was acting as webmaster, 


> > what I could tell (managing the content - the technical process of

> > setting it up was apparently done by Hans). Hans and Jan are as

> > classicly dutch names as you can have.

> >

> > I have nothing to do with this blog, nor would I have abruptly 


> > it offline like this. I would have made it look better, keep 


> > open from the start (disruptive comments can always be deleted 


> > and told you all about it way earlier.

> > I would certainly not have pretended I only found out about it

> > recently if that wasn't the case. My asking John Algeo about it 


> > the direct cause of it going offline, I'm afraid. He had been 


> > on it but wasn't aware that it was publicly accessible already.

> >

> > Further points: I would not have had it hosted in The Netherlands 


> > it was meant to reach an international public. Both my websites 


> > hosted in the US for that reason (not that I'm all that happy 

with the

> > host of my blog, but that's another story).

> >

> > However, it is clearly no coincidence that the contributors so far

> > have included several Dutch people: Jan Kind, Ali Ritsema (former

> > Dutch general secretary, now living in Belgium with her English

> > husband) and Wies Kuiper current Dutch general secretary. John 


> > is also involved, as is Betty Bland. There was at least one other

> > contributor, but I forget her name (the contribution was 


> > but I hadn't heard of her before and I'm terrible with names).

> >

> > I'm sorry to not have made a backup of that site when I had the

> > chance. I wonder when (and if) it will go online again.

> >

> > The online projects I'm personally responsible for are:

> > http://www.allconsi

> > http://www.katinkah esselink. net/

> > http://www.squidoo. com/katinkahesse link/

> >

> > I'm a contributor to two other theosophical blogs (started by 


> > Richardson USA):

> > http://theosophical society.wordpres

> > http://theosophist. wordpress. com/

> >

> > Katinka Hesselink

> >

> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>, 


> > <mkr777@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Couple of days ago I noticed that the domain was from NL and 


> > Katinka

> > > was the owner. Later only I found that perhaps someone else in 


> > Wonder

> > > who is the real owner?

> > >

> > > mkr

> > >

> > >

> > > On 10/5/08, Pedro Oliveira <prmoliveira@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I have noticed yesterday (it is already Monday morning in

> > Sydney) that

> > > > the blog "theosophyforward" , containing views of some General 


> > > > members on TS matters after the Presidential election, was 


> > > > taken offline. As a matter of fact, this seems to have 

happened soon

> > > > after Katinka Hesselink "announced" it!

> > > >

> > > > Does anybody know why this has happened? I also noticed that 


> > > > mentions it in his website as offline. Does anyone know who 


> > > > webmaster is? While the blog was online I saw the name "Jan" 

on top of

> > > > the homepage. That seems to be a Dutch name. I wonder if it 


> > > > someone living in The Netherlands or a Dutch person living in 

the US,

> > > > or visiting the US.

> > > >

> > > > Pedro

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

> >  

> >



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