Re: Theos-World Cheers ! Theosophical Society succeeded in attaining it's object
Jul 21, 2008 02:37 PM
by Morten Nymann Olesen
I do not have acces to all files.
Maybe someone else at this forum will offer me and the planet compassionate assistence on this matter, so to help Zaitzev.
I know the following...
A letter from C. W. Leadbeater about - his own readmission.
2. Annie Besant on C. W. Leadbeater's - readmission. About how she rightly threw some of the emotional anti-Leadbeater theosophist into their rightful place.
But also how she distorted the truth about the matter!
"If the Theosophical Society wishes to undo the wrong done to him, it is for the Convention of each Section to ask me to invite his return, and I will rejoice to do so."
Annie Besant clearly wanted to delete the charges from the below earlier meeting where Olcott and G.R.S. Mead, A.P. Sinnett and others were present. It was charges up to that meeting, that made C. W. Leadbeater leave the TS and resign before he were thrown out!
3. The Report from the meeting in 1906, may 16th in London, where C. W. Leadbeater resigned and where he - admitted - to have done wrong in not asking the parents before "educating" the children. And where he admitted, that there "might" have been actual touch involved in the teachings! Something he denied in the Court case in 1912!
Here is the report from 16th maj 1906 meeting in London as well as various letters from the time.
(Just to let the readers know: I have recently translated this Report into Danish. It is now online on the Internet.)
When the charges were going to be deleted by the Annie Besant - the Leader of Esoteric Section and TS as a whole, one will clearly see, what was going on.
4. A vital paper about what it was all about, when C. W. Leadbeater was readmitted...
"The adoption by the Convention of a Resolution asking the General Council to restore Mr. Leadbeater to membership in the Theosophical Society. No conditions are stated, no recantation of his teaching is exacted. The Resolution is in these words: "Resolved that the proper officer or officers of the T. S. be and the same are hereby requested by the American Section T. S. in meeting duly assembled, to invite as soon as possible Mr. Charles W. Leadbeater to accept again membership in the Theosophical Society.""
This was what it all was about in 1908. There were no conditions involved what so ever!
Nor where there as far as I know any imposed on him later after he joined the TS again.
And I wonder, what the answer was from Annie Besant to this protest, which was given in this the last mentioned PDF-file. I can only suggest reading the above 70 pages carefully.
You may correct me if I am wrong.
I am not aware of that C. W. Leadbeater held any office before he resigned in 1906.
I know, that he lectured and wrote books within TS. But I can imagine that he lost any position he might have had in the British Section in 1906.
Yet the readmission set no limits upon his re-entry into the TS.
When he became a member again he was allowed to teach and travel around the world. He authored several books. And he was the one who was said to have discovered J. Krishnamurti. Just imagine how many paedophile victim's will feel when they read this and join the TS Adyar.
I wonder if you can imagine somethign like that Zaitzev???
He even started to teach children again in Australia. What he actually taught them can we only contemplate.
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I would add and say, that Those who know how it is to be a paedophile victim will better understand the issue, than most of those calling themselves theosophists do today in TS Adyar.
If i remember correctly C.W. Leadbeater became a member of the E.S. somewhere after 1908. And he was working in close coorperation with Annie Besant.
----- Original Message -----
From: Konstantin Zaitzev
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Cheers ! Theosophical Society succeeded in attaining it's object
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
> At court C. W. Leadbeater lied about his behavior towards
You DIDN'T reply to the previous agruments about membership.
Which type of membership do you propose?
You should be responsible for your own words:
> --- In email@example.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
> <global-theosophy@> wrote:
> But to me, the greatest failure was allowing C. W. Leadbeater to
> be a member on the same level again.
>> And of which levels members should be. Do you propose to have
>> members of first and second sort?
> children six years earlier. The Judge at court did not know about
> it, so he was not jailed. That is telling enough.
For me, the court verdict is enough, as we are talking about the
accusation in criminal case. As there is no higher authority in such
things than the court. Consequently what you say is most probably
slander. If Leadbeater was alive, he could easily sue you and win the
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