Re: Theos-World A pledge to HPB or Kirshnamurti?
May 25, 2008 09:44 AM
Lol, I just noticed a few contradictions in my story,
but they are of no importance...
It is my 49th birthday next wednesday; I invite the
whole family and all of their friends ( to whom I
actually see many in this forum too), physically,
mentally and spiritually. This is not just because of
my humble self, but as a reminder of the day of the
Ruler of the ...Total (Natural) Harmonic Hierarchy's,
which we all serve...and ARE.
( I can not speak for Him )but accept my blessings any
See you laters Alligators
(After a mile you son of the Nile)
--- Morten Nymann Olesen
> Well, interesting Martin...
> My idea was that J. Krishnamurti have been one of
> the main promoters of debasing the doctrine of
> Master-Chelaship, and that the Radha camp and
> friends have for decades not really clairified why
> this is a useful doctrine, when The "Book of
> Discipline" in the schools of "Dzyan." tell us all
> the opposite.
> It is not healthy to promote as a theosophical view
> that Master-Chelaship is a crutch as J. Krishanmurti
> There are limits to what Master will accept. The
> proper view is that it - can - be a crutch, and NOT
> that it at all times - is - a crutch.
> - - - - - - - -
> Saying that it is wise to promote J. Krishnamurti a
> socalled Messiah showing no signs and fruits what so
> ever of being a Messiah and World Teacher - more
> than or as just as valid as - Krishna, Buddha,
> Joshua ben Pandira, or Khidr is way out of line -
> and not in accordance with theosophical teaching.
> Authors like H. P. Blavatsky, Idries Shah,
> Vivekananda, Ramana Maharishi, Amma, Mahatma Ghandi
> and similar could just as well be called World
> Teachers because of their acitivities and fruits.
> The theosophical cause is not in need of a J.
> Krishnamurti cult, who devalues the Masters and
> The the present day medias and intellectual academic
> authors will only promote the view, that TS Adyar is
> Messiah Cult with a low level Messiah, when compared
> with Jesus Christ. We cannot have a continuátion
> Sometimes theosophical groups are hit by lack of
> sincerity. Sometimes it is lack of sincerity of the
> doctrine and cause we call Master-Chelaship.
> - - - - - - - -
> Master KH wrote in a Mahatma Letter:
> For the opposition represents enormous vested
> interests, and they have enthusiastic help from the
> Dugpas -- in Bhootan and the Vatican!
> (Here is all of Mahtama Letter, No. 55. Dugpas are
> the same as selfish Magicians.)
> H. P. Blavatsky said:
> "The Society founded to remedy the glaring evils of
> Christianity, to shun bigotry and intolerance, cant
> and superstition and to cultivate real universal
> love extending even to the dumb brute".
> (The Collected Writings of H. P. Blavatsky, vol. 7,
> M. Sufilight
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martin
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World A pledge to HPB or
> Ineteresting topic...!
> I was raised by 2 Dugpa's and later changed their
> lifes forever.
> I cured my mothers illnesses by birth ( she told
> me I
> drank poison from her breasts the first 3 day's of
> I showed my father the way to happiness by
> another woman, after 32 years of marriage.
> I was raised Spartanic, had 6 brothers and 2
> I honour them in despite of all the wrongdoing's I
> went through and love them deeply as if I had Mary
> Josef as parents.
> A final note:
> They are both still alive (78 and 82 years of
> and I am planning to reunite the family with the
> of my brothers and sisters, since I actually only
> have good (theosophical) contact with my 6 year
> brother who was my dealiest enemy).
> My socalled stepfather is 91 y.o.a. now and is
> driving his electric bike!!!
> If I can manage with my families help to reunite
> again, the spell of our fanily Dugpa will be
> The next step will be my country ( I live in the
> My 2cnts.
> A first step has been my eldest brother ( I am the
> middle one of 13 births (with 3 dead babies).
> --- Morten Nymann Olesen
> <email@example.com> wrote:
> > To all readers
> > My views are:
> > *** HE WHO WIPETH NOT AWAY THE FILTH WITH WHICH
> > PARENT'S BODY MAY HAVE BEEN DEFILED BY AN ENEMY,
> > NEITHER LOVES THE PARENT NOR HONOURS HIMSELF.
> > I can only recommend, that all members of TS
> > to read the following carefully so to understand
> > chelaship - and leadership. And when they are
> > to relate this to J. Krishnamurti's teachings in
> > manner, which is not in opposition to his own
> > teachings, I will be happy to learn and know
> > this. Until then I must regard J. Krishnamurti's
> > teachings as an obstacle to the theosophical
> > and therefore possibly also the TS cause.
> > >>> H. P. Blavatsky said the folllowing <<<
> > "In 1890, in England, a second Preliminary
> > Memorandum* was published, this being extracts
> > H.P.B.'s "Preliminary Explanations to No. III of
> > Instructions," plus the penultimate paragraph of
> > that Instruction. The Aryan Press in New York
> > published this second Preliminary Memorandum in
> > eight-page pamphlet. Its text is as follows:
> > Strictly private and confidential.
> > ESOTERIC SECTION
> > PRELIMINARY MEMORANDUM
> > "If thou canst not fulfil thy pledge, refuse to
> > it, but once thou hast bound thyself to any
> > carry it out, even if thou hast to die for it."
> > Membership in the E. S., and "pledges" sent,
> > accepted and signed, are no warrants for a high
> > success, nor do these pledges aim at making of
> > student an adept or a magician. They are simply
> > seeds in which lurks the potentiality of every
> > truth, the germ of that progress which will be
> > heirloom of only the seventh perfect Race. A
> > of such seeds was entrusted to me by the keepers
> > these truths, and it is my duty to sow them
> > where I perceive a possibility of growth. It is
> > parable of the Sower put once more into
> > and a fresh lesson to be derived from its new
> > application. The seeds that fall into good
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