Theos-Talk Archives (January 2008 Message tt00259)

My notes from years ago say that beyond the Manifested Logos as a Trinity, there is an unmanifesterd triangle of the Heirarchy of this Earth, behind the great three, The King who wills, the Prime Minister who plans and the General who executes.  Behind the three is a Fourth - the Silent Watcher.
   
  Around the King are four great devarajas who adjust the Karma of Men and operate through the aura of the King.  This Devarajas are also called Mind Born Sons of Brahma-Lords of the Flame and are known as the Head, the Heart, the Soul and the Seed of undying knowledge.
   
  Perhaps my notes are inaccurate but my understanding is that Nerada  may be The King and The Lipikas either the recorders of or agents for justice through the King?  Perhaps the King itself governs planetary karma which would explain the Shiva aspect of its nature.
   
  The Lipika separate the world of pure spirit from that of matter?
   
  Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I could set me straight on this?  I truly would love someone to draw a diagram of what seems to be triangles within triangles of heirarchichal beings or the AHHI.
   
  Cass

mvandertak <j.schenk@quicknet.nl> wrote:
          Hi all,

I am not new to theosophy, but have been out of study a few years 
because of some private troubles.
Now I am back I came across readings about see topic as being an 
active topic among Theosophists.

I have just finished reading the Mahatma Letters, during reading I 
contacted Mr. Grubb from The Theosophical Society in Pasadena 
confronting him ( within the back of my had the following by KH: The 
Dhyan Chohans answer to Buddh, Divine Wisdom and Life in blissful 
knowledge, and the Ma-mos are the personification in nature of Shiva, 
Jehovah and other invented monsters with Ignorance at their tail ) 
with the Narada Shiva story as read by myself in various books and 
through own weird experiences. 
He responded with judging me on abusive emails and threatening people 
and lack of will to do good but on some level, but I ignored that bit 
and used it to dig more in their new God Narada Shiva, being one of 
his messengers ( I like to provoke when I am judged wrongly 
especially after having been of their service when I was a young man 
and dumped being too boisterous and left for Dugpa's to try get a 
hold on me, and behind my back saying they are my friends ).
So Theosophy is ok for me, actually I am greatfull for the 
experiences I had with this piece of the Theosophic World, but thank 
you, not, for the people in Pasadena which I have crossed, for their 
personalities that I know now are certainly no friends of mine or the 
like.
I have apologised for any misbehaviour, if there was any and asked 
them to send me my membershipcard back. KH stated any member who has 
been away should be able to join again.
I am completely ignored, but forget it. I am asking too much 
attention for myself, although I am sure there are others with 
similar experiences with the several Theosophical Societies, which 
btw was a nightmare idea to happen to KH, when he was discussing all 
the different Christian sects.
I use the word discussion differently btw. In Dutch we 
have 'discussion' meaning to enlighten a conversation, bring more 
clarity; and we have the word 'debate', meaning no questions asked, 
you are either with these ideas or with the terrorists...erhm scrap 
that last word please. Debate means actually a battle with a winner 
and a loser.
Ok, back to the topic.
Narada-Shiva, does any1 have a clue?
I found Narada was the 12th Buddha and Shiva? hmm Narada Shiva is 
another word for Vajrapani or Maha Kala?
Gottfried de Purucker mixed many things up, I still wonder although 
of great knowledge, if he just told all which was known till then 
about Theosophy in his own words and used a big dose of 
imagination/fantasy. Exactly a word off which I am accused of, first 
by Grace Francis Knoche and now by Mr. Randell Grubb. I have never 
fantasised any of the above ideas, I just try to work with it and 
find out the Truth, to share with others.
Well for now, this email is long enough, expect more to follow and 
thanks for allowing me in this group :-)
Martin



                         

       
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