Re: Theos-World -Tibet and Tulku about HPB
Jan 17, 2008 01:26 PM
by christinaleestemaker
Yes Laughing ,not only the frogs will do.Mice are not of the party
Lol Bye bye Christina
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> Let us know if the Frogs and Mice start marching out of your pond
Christina, a sign of the apocalypse! lol
> Cass
>
> christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
> Yes, most people think young plants on which you see
after eating
> little long blades, mouses or rabbits are doing that, but that is
> wrong seeing, snails can eat plants so quickly that you see next
day
> blades of the plant.
> So I discovered the brown frog, only brown ones are eating snails.
> So for that the problem is away in our surroundings.Now we have
> harmony and snails are left only eat the leaves or other parts of
the
> plant what has fallen down.Now we keep every young plant
untouchable.
> Also the harmony in frogs is there, for cats eating them if there
> will come too much of them.
>
> Every spring I have about 12 brown couples in my ponds.Realy nature
> is beautiful, only people need to keep harmony in it.Neighbours
> sometimes make troubles for the frogs coming in the homes, but I
> learn them to put them out and not to kill them, for the cats take
> care if there afre coming too much.
> But also frogs learn in their surroundings, now I never find one in
> the house for my garden is full of plants,fruit and also two kayaks
> in which they find a warm place in winter.My cat like them very
much
> and mostly go to play with them.Realy wonderful to see.
> Christina
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry Christina I did not read properly
> > ¡ You have brown frogs in your garden to eat the snails!
> > This is fantastic, I´ve never heard something like that in my
> life. It has to be wanderfull at nigth time. You Dutch people are
> really unic.
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Raquel
> >
> > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > Dear Raquel, you don't bore me at all.
> > I can feel that time with you, so you explain it very well.
> > That must have been round about 30- 50 years ago.Now everywhere
we
> > have electric,central heating and gaz also.
> > I have worked and lived in Scheveningen in a street near the sea
in
> a
> > big house near my pharmacy.
> > By means I have had two houses, one in the middle of the
> Netherlands
> > which was my official residance.The one in Scheveningen was the
> upper
> > part of a double house.There are near the sea such houses.
> > I would have bought this house totally, but the owner sold it for
> the
> > same price to another.It had to be so.
> > Better, for after my holidays in Egypt for a month after coming
> back,
> > the problems started in the pharmacy.After me the best nice
> collegue
> > went on holidays and the others go to make very much problems to
> me,
> > because of their jalousy.They let me work with an old lazy one,
> while
> > they get ill, but they were not, but they played like that.
> > So in a meantime I was overworked and came ill too.From that time
I
> > stayed away from them and happely never give up my own residance
> for
> > whatever, me in this way, will overcome in life.So I returned to
> the
> > middle of the country and pick up my life here.In the same place
I
> > went to a bigger new house with nice garden and which I builded
up
> > from a meaddow into paradise with fruittrees and ponds with lotus
> and
> > brown frogs, who eat the snails.Otherwise snials eat all the
young
> > plants. Here I live now for 15 year, no one lived here before.Me
> and
> > my neighbours are the first humans on this ground as far as we
live
> > for the time now.
> > More exciting is , that years before I came here I have seen an
UFO
> > in the air under which I have my house now.Some people will not
> > believe, but it could not have been an helicopter, for that
cannot
> go
> > criss cross from left to right moving in the air.It was a blue
> > lighted one.On my work they said, did not you stop and go out
your
> > car to look. No , I drove slower and and got to look especially
to
> > its way and from one side to the other side it was moving, so I
> could
> > not see wrong.Later I read in newspaper, that some cars on the
> > highway lost energy for a while without any reason.That was a
> > miracle, but I knew better.
> >
> > Charming the tot sinz und slaap leker.
> > Yes, ook goede nacht en slaap lekker
> > Christina
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I lived four years in Den Haag, at the Junostraat, an
> > industrial area leading with Rijswijk and Noorwijk, but shame I
´ve
> > never learn the language properly, just for doing shopping and
> asking
> > for direction on the street. I used to make my income, modeling
at
> > the art school and other small jobs like teaching juggling to
kids
> on
> > schools, or juggling dance on private parties.
> > > I never meant to stay so long, There were my twenties, I
arrived
> > with a rucksack on my back a juggling sticks on my hand and many
> > questions about my own existence and there I found Theosophy with
> all
> > it´s answers.
> > > I remember very first time The SD felt on my hands. I was with
a
> > friend of mine on a second hand bookstore having a look to a
naive
> > horoscope book with many colorful drawings reading something
about
> > Aquarius hear moving on the air and saying "what a nice book",
when
> > this friend of mine, said " this is a nice book" and placed
between
> > my hands the SD. By no means I felt any attraction about such a
> heavy
> > condense book, but not to be unpolite I open it and have a look
to
> > the table of contest.
> > > This very moment marks a before and a after in my life. There
in
> > front of my very eyes where answers to all the questions that I
> had.
> > I could immediately recognise even the questions I did not know I
> > had, but she had given name.
> > > Vertigo would be a word to describe what I felt.
> > > On that time I could not even read the little prince in
English,
> > But I bought the book, take it home and not being able to afford
a
> > dictionary I went on reading it strait away. I used to stare at
the
> > words and read sentences and paragraphs over and over, until by
the
> > context I would get the meaning of the word.
> > > Now I have a good dictionary with me, but most of the time I
keep
> > using this old tecnic
> > > The house I lived in, was a little typical dutch two floors
house
> > with a garden on the back, that belonged to an old car company.
> > > The house was builded for the workers of the company and had
been
> > abandoned for several years. The owner aloud as to skuot it until
> he
> > sells the whole company.
> > > On this street there were just factories, car companies, a
> > political refugee center, a coffee shop on a boat at the canal
and
> my
> > little square brick house with huge windows and a glass door with
> > lace courtains. During the day track, noise and dust. At night
time
> > all was closed and the families of the refugee center used to go
> out
> > for a little walk and the street became full with calm
> conversations
> > in all foreign Asiatic and African languages and songs. The men
> used
> > to sing to each other as in conversation.
> > > We had no electricity but gas and water and a light ball on the
> > toilet that we made work with a car battery. I used to spend long
> > time locked in my room lighted with candles reading this book,
> > looking at the abyss of consciousness. Surrounded by exotic signs
> > > What a beautiful time. I think the desire to understand that I
> > had, was what really worked the best, as tecnically, with the
> > knowlege of english I had, reading such a book would have been
> almost
> > imposible.
> > > Nevertheless suddenly four years where gone and I decided to
> > settle, go to school to learn the language properly and find a
> proper
> > job. I inscribed myself on school, came for a little holidays to
> > Spain to see my family and never came back, but to visit some
> friends
> > now and then.
> > >
> > > I hoped I did not bore you with all this. I have such magical
> > regards of that time.
> > > Still I want to learn Dutch and German also, they are dear
> > languages to my ear, it is one of my future projects.
> > >
> > > Tot sinz und slaap leker
> > >
> > > Raquel
> > >
> > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > Hi Raquel, so you have lived in Den Hague.How many years?
> > > And have you learned our language?
> > > I also try to read all TS stuff in English, for it is a
language
> > most
> > > countries use.But in times before people did not learn very
well
> in
> > > schools.For the time now, we see on television lot of American
> > films
> > > and can visit BBC, so easier for us.
> > > And after a year following discussions here, also one learn to
> use
> > it
> > > better.
> > > We are as the Masters, they also have had few vocabulary,
> > especially
> > > Morya, he wrote in one of his letters to Hume.Otherwise he
could
> > > explain himself very claer.And that is it.
> > >
> > > Here in our country we have a lot of old theosophists, near 70
or
> > > elder, they also cannot read or understand the English.
> > >
> > > Some books I think , were used a lot of strange English words.
> > > Then one needs to use the dictionary more than he should like
to
> do.
> > > That is no peasure I can tell you.But we learn every day more.
> > > There are words I need to find again and again, I cannot keep
in
> my
> > > mind, but sure everybody will have that.
> > > Hope you liked the work in Spanish from prof Nehru.
> > > Christina
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez
<raquel_rpj@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Christina
> > > > Thank you again for details, I did no know that was the first
> > > edition, of the SD, nevertheless, the printing house, Sirio it
is
> > > almost correct, but not the best.
> > > > I know Theosophical Society in Spain has good translations
and
> > > printings, I´ve already downloaded a few books from their web
> site.
> > I
> > > ´m not a registered member of the TS, and the bit I know of
their
> > > work in this country is through Internet, again for the bit I
> have
> > > search, they have material enough for a live time study if one
> has
> > > interest.
> > > > It is very easy in your country to find both, good
translations
> > > and books in English. What happens is, as most Spanish don´t
> speak
> > > English, the books that are not translated are not also to
sell,
> as
> > > far as I know. .They might be in Barcelona, Madrid or Valencia,
> but
> > I
> > > have not been there yet and Granada is a dessert for books.
> > Sometimes
> > > searching for a book, the salesman would tell me they don´t
print
> > > this book anymore, so he would not have to bother to find it
out
> > for
> > > me.
> > > > I menage reading in English, to my surprise, luckily better I
> can
> > > talk or write.
> > > > I began my studies of Theosophy in your country when I was
> living
> > > in The Hague, when I came back to south Spain I was so
> disappointed
> > > of the lack of information I could find, I do not mean that
there
> > is
> > > not, it is just hard to find.
> > > >
> > > > A few pages from Internet have proof to be very reliable to
me,
> > > as Amazon and
> > > > Health Research. I was so happy when I got my first book
> shipped
> > > after so many years coming across with nothing, I can not
> explain.
> > At
> > > one point I was not happy with the publishing house and I ask
to
> > > return the book. They refund me the money and ask me to keep
the
> > book
> > > as the price of shipping back was prohibitive, still I agree
with
> > > you, I would better walk down the shop and have a look for
> myself,
> > > even shafe the money of shippings that many times are more
> > expensive
> > > than the books themselves.
> > > >
> > > > The link you send me looks very interesting, but I could no
> > > executed for some reason, however, I thing at the moment I´ll
> keep
> > > reading in English and buying through internet, till I have a
> > little
> > > holiday to Barcelona. I really miss to get in to a non digital
> > > Theosophical shop.
> > > >
> > > > Happy New Year
> > > >
> > > > Love and Ligth to All beings
> > > >
> > > > Raquel
> > > >
> > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > > Reaquel the SD you have is the earliest publishing , for
> > > that time
> > > > there were 7 volumes.
> > > >
> > > > In our center and publishing house in Amsterdam we have all
te
> > books
> > > > , but I don't think we have digitalized so much as Canada has
> > done.
> > > > Indeed we can be happy with the work they have done there.
> > > > Also in our country we have good translations, but nothing to
> be
> > > > found on internet.Not one book.
> > > > And if we see some interesting books for low prizes on
> internet,
> > we
> > > > cannot take risk for paying and afterwards not getting that
> books.
> > > > I think all loges need to have the most important books on
> table
> > > for
> > > > sale.Also in your country are people translating the books
into
> > > > Spanish.If you visit yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/
group/
> > > divya-
> > > > jnana/?yguid=162317756 here prof Nehru has translated his
work
> > into
> > > > Spanish.You can find after membership in files.
> > > >
> > > > Christina
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez
> <raquel_rpj@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Christina for the advise.
> > > > > I agree with Theosophical Publishing House, but Spanish
> > > > Theosophical shops in Spain are too far from Granada.
> Impossible
> > to
> > > > buy it here, once I ask to a friend that traveled to
Barcelona
> to
> > > get
> > > > me The Secret Doctrine, and he came back with seven books of
a
> > > rather
> > > > bad quality printing, not as bad as Kessinger.
> > > > > I have to say, I have never seen by myself a Theosophical
> shop
> > in
> > > > Spain, they are not as common as in Holland. Also many books
> are
> > > not
> > > > translated in Spanish, and books in English are not easy to
> find.
> > > > > In Den Haag library, you can find books, of every subject
in
> > > > every language, this is very different here. In Granada´s
> library
> > I
> > > > could not find not one book related to Theosophy. Apart all
the
> > > > inherent knowledge attached to this city by the history of
> > > > civilizations, I thing Granada has not jet recover from the
> burn
> > of
> > > > the books carried by inquisition and the strong repression of
> 40
> > > > years of a military ditadura.
> > > > > Thanks to the Internet I can have an essay approach to
> certain
> > > > books. Although I rather walk to the shop and handle the book
> by
> > > > myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Raquel
> > > > >
> > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > > > Raquel.
> > > > > Better buy it from the Theosophical Publishing House.Adyar.
> > > > > I have it from 1966 first edition bought from our
Publishing
> > > house
> > > > in
> > > > > Amsterdam, they ordered from Adyar long time ago I think,
for
> I
> > > > have
> > > > > it for half a year.In Spain you will also have
possibilities
> to
> > > get
> > > > > from Adyar.
> > > > > Books ordered from internet we have bad experiences, for
they
> > let
> > > > pay
> > > > > you and never send the books.
> > > > > Christina
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez
> > <raquel_rpj@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I found this if anyone is interested.
> > > > > > Tibet and Tulku first edition from 1966.
> > > > > > http://www.antiqbook.com/books/
> > bookinfo.phtml?o=bookc&bnr=13250
> > > > > > I wish I could buy it, but I am too delayed on my
homework.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Raquel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > > > > John, have you read from the Caves,jungles of Hindustan
> > > > > by the hand
> > > > > > of HPB,as Radda Bai.
> > > > > > I think in Russian she had expressed totally, but her
niece
> > > > > > translated the stories into English.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wonderful the story "An Island of mystery".
> > > > > > The orchest; the gigantic sirka reeds(vina- devi)and the
> > > bamboos,
> > > > > > some musical fantasy born of the howling and whistling of
> the
> > > > wind.
> > > > > > A horrid fancy haunts the bewildered heads, the image
that
> the
> > > > > > invisible artists strain the veins and not the strings of
> > > > imaginary
> > > > > > violins. Real fun that Olcott thought that Gulab-Singh
> caused
> > > > that
> > > > > > phenomonon and had no idea it was natural acoustic caused
> by
> > > the
> > > > > wind.
> > > > > > I would have been there too!
> > > > > > Also I can understand Barborka's pity to turn away from
> Caves
> > > and
> > > > > > jungles and the talentful writings from HPB's pen.
Tomorrow
> I
> > > buy
> > > > > > that book. Realy great such entertainment.
> > > > > > Christina
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > > Thanks for your comments and reply. Well, I don't want
to
> > > give
> > > > > > the impression that I have any special knowledge of how
> this
> > > was
> > > > > > effected on H.P.B. what I say is only my personal
opinion.
> > > First
> > > > I
> > > > > > hold the view that the Seventh Atmic and Sixth Buddhic
> > > Principals
> > > > > are
> > > > > > both Transcendental immutable unchangable and beyond the
> > > ability
> > > > to
> > > > > > effect of even Mahatma or Dhyana Buddha for even they are
> > > > > > Personalizations. So what remains that is not of
> > Transcendental
> > > > > State
> > > > > > are the five lower Principles the Sthula, Prana, Linga,
> Kama,
> > > > Manas
> > > > > > (divided of upper and lower mind). I believe it was one
of
> > > these
> > > > > that
> > > > > > was separated and retained during her Initiations in
Tibet.
> > > > > According
> > > > > > to Tibet and Tulku one thing this facilitated when the
> > ability
> > > to
> > > > > > communicate to a higher permanent degree with her at all
> > times
> > > > and
> > > > > > to allow the direct use of her vehicle when desired. Her
> > Astral
> > > > > Bell
> > > > > > that she always heard on the current signaling the
approach
> > or
> > > > > > nearness of her Masters or a special important message. Pe
> > > > > > > rhaps it also was a mechanism that made possible her
> > ability
> > > to
> > > > > > make use of Akashic Records to read and transcribe
directly
> > the
> > > > > > literary contents she placed in her works. In addition it
> is
> > > said
> > > > > > that by retaining the Principle her Oath of Silence was
> > > insured,
> > > > > for
> > > > > > to violate it would cause permanent loss to her of this
> > > Principle.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is some indication that the Ancient Egyptian also
> had
> > > > some
> > > > > > type of knowledge in this matter regarding the "Shabti"
and
> > > > > > energization that permitted unique interface with the
> > > individual
> > > > in
> > > > > > works that are not Theosophical and deal especially with
> > > Egyptian
> > > > > > Matters only.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The depth and breath of the contents of Tibet and Tulku
> are
> > > too
> > > > > > deep and complex to explain like this. But my eyes were
> > opened
> > > on
> > > > > > many, many things that directly apply to how the Masters
> > > project
> > > > > > their Image and Mind, send messages, make use of a chela
> > > remotely
> > > > > and
> > > > > > so many other modes that are a unique ability of the
> Mahatma
> > or
> > > > > full
> > > > > > Adept. When H.P.B. spent five weeks exteriorized from her
> > > > physical
> > > > > > body where else but in Tibet and Tulku are the further
> > allowed
> > > > > > details found about this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This work will always remain with me and in my library
it
> > > > offers
> > > > > > deep understanding and explanations not found in any
other
> > > > > > Theosophical works. At the time I first purchased my
> > hardbound
> > > > > > edition from a rare book dealer I was very deeply
involved
> in
> > a
> > > > > most
> > > > > > phenomenal UFO Case in 1976, I was experiencing many
things
> > one
> > > > can
> > > > > > only read about in H.P.B.'s life --- conversant real time
> > > > > telepathy,
> > > > > > apportment of objects by the UFO Experiencer, Astral
bells
> > > > ringing
> > > > > on
> > > > > > a regular basis, and much more! I was looking for
something
> > > that
> > > > > > might explain who was the "Projector", how was it done,
how
> > can
> > > > > they
> > > > > > change time itself? And I found excellent correlates in
> Tibet
> > > and
> > > > > > Tulku no where else have I found this important
instructive
> > > > content
> > > > > > in more than 32 years. It was one of the things that
caused
> > me
> > > to
> > > > > > find Theosophy many years ago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@>
> > > > > > > Sorry, it is not the language, it is me.I read it too
> > quickly
> > > > and
> > > > > > > think directly, better forget the thinking by
reading.And
> I
> > > had
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > one on WinLive messager, so too much.Later when I read
> > again
> > > I
> > > > > saw
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > say the right thing they pointed out on page 144.
> > > > > > > But indeed how they could take off one of the lower
> > > principles,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > she would have been not completed by herself.Possibly
she
> > was
> > > > not
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > for that they give her the 7th and take off the motive
> for
> > > > talk,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > part of the fifth away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Opera browser have problems with this group, for all
this
> > > > > messages
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > not there.I opened in my other browser.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i have the book for some months, so I have not read all.
> > > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. We must have a language
thing
> > > here.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > said they retained One of the Seven Principles of her
> > Economy
> > > of
> > > > > > > Being. I didn't say which one. You through translation
> > > between
> > > > > > English
> > > > > > > and Dutch missed my true meaning. But thanks for you
> reply
> > I
> > > am
> > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > that you have read T.T. , I thought if anyone has it
> would
> > be
> > > > you
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > the thought was a truth.
> > > > > > > > I appreciate your response and comments. My point was
> to
> > > give
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > expanded basis for accounting for some of the
> peculiarities
> > > > > observed
> > > > > > > in Madame Blavatskys behaviors that create such a
> negative
> > > > > response
> > > > > > > towards her.This was asked about by members here. How
> many
> > > > people
> > > > > > > could do otherwise if they were missing one of the
> necessary
> > > > > > > Principles of Wholeness of Being? I don't want to
> predefine
> > > > from
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > own views for others so I hope they will read Tibet and
> > Tulku
> > > > and
> > > > > > > benefit. The Tulku are the Sky Walkers and Nirmanakaya
> from
> > a
> > > > > > Tibetan
> > > > > > > view. I got a kick when I first watched Star Wars and
the
> > > Hero
> > > > was
> > > > > > > Luke Skywalker who had a real Skywalker ( Obe 1 kenobi)
> as
> > > his
> > > > > > Mentor
> > > > > > > (a correlate metaphor for the Mahatma). In my view I
was
> > > greatly
> > > > > > > helped in grasping many things one reads of in the
> History
> > of
> > > > her
> > > > > > life
> > > > > > > and without the explanations detailed in this Book I
> would
> > > > never
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > had the expanded view on how the "Communication"
actually
> > > takes
> > > > > > place
> > > > > > > between the Brothers and Blavatsky and others
> > > > > > > > and the several different modes that are used in
> > different
> > > > > forms.
> > > > > > > You having read it know this, it will always be with
you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@>
> > > > > > > > Thank you , for you the same wishes and that the
world
> > may
> > > > have
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > peace.Especially the people on it.
> > > > > > > > NASA is realy great and does not earn people write
> stupid
> > > > books
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > them.Here we have Delft and Eindhoven , which
> technology
> > > they
> > > > > > share.
> > > > > > > > Now we produce a new collapsible bookreader, which we
> can
> > > use
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > > easy and also can be weared in GSM's. Easy to take
with
> > > you,
> > > > > put a
> > > > > > > > card reader or readingUSB stick in it and you have a
> > total
> > > > from
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > than 160 gig to take with you.Very handy.All
> theosophical
> > > > books
> > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > minute .It reads better than from a book for it have
a
> > > better
> > > > > > reading
> > > > > > > > field and have special light, better for the eyes.
> > > > > > > > This year we bring it on the market.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have read pag 143/4 - 363/4/5 in my book T and T
from
> > > > > Barborka.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Her emotional expression is one of the square
> underlying
> > > > > > principles,
> > > > > > > > so normally and (why they take the seventh principle
> > > ?),that
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > bring a disaster to her and the world, they never
> should
> > do
> > > > > that.
> > > > > > > > That you have read wrong.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > She needed to prepare the way for mankind.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And the fact of the 7 th principle in the complete
> human
> > > > > > being.That
> > > > > > > > is the point.Otherwise the human being is not
complete
> > and
> > > a
> > > > > > danger
> > > > > > > > for himself and others.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > She needed to show and exercizing the siddhis of the
> 6th
> > > > > > principle in
> > > > > > > > human, so she could warn us for the danger in them.As
> we
> > > all
> > > > > know
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > can do good with the Ajna developement, but also do
> wrong
> > > > with
> > > > > > it. It
> > > > > > > > is the heaviest power we have.For that she must have
> had
> > > the
> > > > > > seventh
> > > > > > > > principle , otherwise she would fallen down into and
> > > staying
> > > > in
> > > > > > that 6
> > > > > > > > principle and a danger, if no control from the 7
> > > > th.Sahasrara.
> > > > > > > > The 7(sahasrara) and the 6(ajna) are to be needed to
> stay
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > higher mind and come out of the lower mind.That is
what
> I
> > > > know.
> > > > > > > > But she lived in a time of no developement like we
have
> > now
> > > > and
> > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > people were very crazy of mediumship and spiritism.If
> > that
> > > > > should
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > on, we would have the atlantis from the past, better
we
> > > have
> > > > > the
> > > > > > post
> > > > > > > > atlantic period now and the possibility to turn back
to
> > > > > spiritual
> > > > > > > > developement, which brings wisdom, wealth and
happines.
> > > > > > > > That is what jezus predicted , the kingdom of god,
the
> > > > kingdom,=
> > > > > > > > nothing outside, but inside ourselves; the total
> > > developement
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > human to become human, human with Divinesoul,
> > Spiritualsoul
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > Humansoul, Atma,Buddhi,Manas in one person, the UNITY
> > > working
> > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > 4 lower principles, all together.All need to be
> > > > perfected.That
> > > > > is
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > way.And happely we have not all the same,
psychophysical
> > > > > > > > conditionsThan we would be like the UNOX sausage.
> > > > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > > > > Hi and Happy New Year to you. Thanks for the neat
> > useful
> > > > > links
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > NASA they are really great archives. I agree with you
> NASA
> > > > > > > > historically has had many, many other Nation Partners
> > then
> > > > and
> > > > > > today
> > > > > > > > also. Like The ESA of the European Union, The
Japanese
> > > Space
> > > > > > Agency,
> > > > > > > > The Australian Partnership that Tracking and Data
> Receipt
> > > > > Station
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > still there now and has recently been engaged in
> > providing
> > > > the
> > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > services as it did during the Apollo Missions among
> > others.
> > > > We
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > have Brazilian and other South American Partners in
> Space
> > > and
> > > > > many
> > > > > > > > tracking Stations all over the World with the
complete
> > > > consent
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > agreement of the Governments of many Nations.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The entire World sat rapt in utter amazement and
> > watched
> > > and
> > > > > > > > listened to the Moon Missions and the Moon landings.
> All
> > > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > world the media received and recorded it at each and
> > > everyone
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > TV Stations and Radio Stations of the "FREE WORLD"
that
> > > > > > rreceivedand
> > > > > > > > resent the live signal out to their populace! The
> > exception
> > > > > were
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > behind the Iron Curtain of the Soviet EMPIRE and the
> > other
> > > > > > hegemony of
> > > > > > > > the Communist Ghouldom!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > These Redactionists of history invent strawman and
> red
> > > > herring
> > > > > > > > issues for political agendas even today they just
> cannot
> > > > accept
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > lost WWII and they lost the Cold War and they will
> always
> > > > remain
> > > > > > > > losers to rational people anywhere on earth.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BTW, when I posted about pages 143-44 of Tibet and
> > Tulku
> > > is
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > > because i wanted to point to what was done to H.P.B.
by
> > the
> > > > > > Brothers
> > > > > > > > -----they removed 1 of her seven principles from her
> and
> > > > > retained
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > in their keeping to serve several purposes, the
result
> of
> > > > this
> > > > > is
> > > > > > seen
> > > > > > > > in her personality and temperament.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > > > From:
"christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@>
> > > > > > > > > Cass,
> > > > > > > > > I think, the NASA( are not only Americans)and also
> work
> > > in
> > > > > > > > > company with Swiss can have LOL about all the
stupids
> > on
> > > > > > > > > earth.
> > > > > > > > > Why you think you have INTERNET
> > > > > > > > > Why you think we have solar cells to warm the
houses?
> > > > > > > > > Why you think we have digital camera's and all kind
> off
> > > > stuff
> > > > > > > > > we can use now and with pleasure if you use it well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Then what they go to find out more.I keep silent!I
> will
> > > see.
> > > > > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva
> > > <silva_cass@>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Trouble is Christina, I don't trust NASA
> > > > > > > > > > Cass
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For people want to know more see:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Slides 8x8 made by Hasselblatt camera by
Armstrong
> or
> > > > Aldin.
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/
> > ch14-
> > > > > 4.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From there you can f ind a lot of stuff they give
> for
> > > > > seeing.
> > > > > > > > > > Most pictures are made by
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/apollo/
> welcome.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/history/apollo/apollo.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/
Apollo204/
> > > > > crew.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/
Apollo204/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4204/
> > > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4214/
> > > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/
> > > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > >
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