Theos-Talk Archives (January 2008 Message tt00204)

Let us know if the Frogs and Mice start marching out of your pond Christina, a sign of the apocalypse! lol
  Cass

christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Yes, most people think young plants on which you see after eating 
little long blades, mouses or rabbits are doing that, but that is 
wrong seeing, snails can eat plants so quickly that you see next day 
blades of the plant.
So I discovered the brown frog, only brown ones are eating snails.
So for that the problem is away in our surroundings.Now we have 
harmony and snails are left only eat the leaves or other parts of the 
plant what has fallen down.Now we keep every young plant untouchable.
Also the harmony in frogs is there, for cats eating them if there 
will come too much of them.

Every spring I have about 12 brown couples in my ponds.Realy nature 
is beautiful, only people need to keep harmony in it.Neighbours 
sometimes make troubles for the frogs coming in the homes, but I 
learn them to put them out and not to kill them, for the cats take 
care if there afre coming too much.
But also frogs learn in their surroundings, now I never find one in 
the house for my garden is full of plants,fruit and also two kayaks 
in which they find a warm place in winter.My cat like them very much 
and mostly go to play with them.Realy wonderful to see.
Christina

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@...> 
wrote:
>
> Sorry Christina I did not read properly
> ¡ You have brown frogs in your garden to eat the snails!
> This is fantastic, I´ve never heard something like that in my 
life. It has to be wanderfull at nigth time. You Dutch people are 
really unic.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Raquel
> 
> christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...> escribió:
> Dear Raquel, you don't bore me at all.
> I can feel that time with you, so you explain it very well.
> That must have been round about 30- 50 years ago.Now everywhere we 
> have electric,central heating and gaz also.
> I have worked and lived in Scheveningen in a street near the sea in 
a 
> big house near my pharmacy.
> By means I have had two houses, one in the middle of the 
Netherlands 
> which was my official residance.The one in Scheveningen was the 
upper 
> part of a double house.There are near the sea such houses.
> I would have bought this house totally, but the owner sold it for 
the 
> same price to another.It had to be so.
> Better, for after my holidays in Egypt for a month after coming 
back, 
> the problems started in the pharmacy.After me the best nice 
collegue 
> went on holidays and the others go to make very much problems to 
me, 
> because of their jalousy.They let me work with an old lazy one, 
while 
> they get ill, but they were not, but they played like that.
> So in a meantime I was overworked and came ill too.From that time I 
> stayed away from them and happely never give up my own residance 
for 
> whatever, me in this way, will overcome in life.So I returned to 
the 
> middle of the country and pick up my life here.In the same place I 
> went to a bigger new house with nice garden and which I builded up 
> from a meaddow into paradise with fruittrees and ponds with lotus 
and 
> brown frogs, who eat the snails.Otherwise snials eat all the young 
> plants. Here I live now for 15 year, no one lived here before.Me 
and 
> my neighbours are the first humans on this ground as far as we live 
> for the time now.
> More exciting is , that years before I came here I have seen an UFO 
> in the air under which I have my house now.Some people will not 
> believe, but it could not have been an helicopter, for that cannot 
go 
> criss cross from left to right moving in the air.It was a blue 
> lighted one.On my work they said, did not you stop and go out your 
> car to look. No , I drove slower and and got to look especially to 
> its way and from one side to the other side it was moving, so I 
could 
> not see wrong.Later I read in newspaper, that some cars on the 
> highway lost energy for a while without any reason.That was a 
> miracle, but I knew better.
> 
> Charming the tot sinz und slaap leker.
> Yes, ook goede nacht en slaap lekker
> Christina
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I lived four years in Den Haag, at the Junostraat, an 
> industrial area leading with Rijswijk and Noorwijk, but shame I´ve 
> never learn the language properly, just for doing shopping and 
asking 
> for direction on the street. I used to make my income, modeling at 
> the art school and other small jobs like teaching juggling to kids 
on 
> schools, or juggling dance on private parties.
> > I never meant to stay so long, There were my twenties, I arrived 
> with a rucksack on my back a juggling sticks on my hand and many 
> questions about my own existence and there I found Theosophy with 
all 
> it´s answers.
> > I remember very first time The SD felt on my hands. I was with a 
> friend of mine on a second hand bookstore having a look to a naive 
> horoscope book with many colorful drawings reading something about 
> Aquarius hear moving on the air and saying "what a nice book", when 
> this friend of mine, said " this is a nice book" and placed between 
> my hands the SD. By no means I felt any attraction about such a 
heavy 
> condense book, but not to be unpolite I open it and have a look to 
> the table of contest. 
> > This very moment marks a before and a after in my life. There in 
> front of my very eyes where answers to all the questions that I 
had. 
> I could immediately recognise even the questions I did not know I 
> had, but she had given name.
> > Vertigo would be a word to describe what I felt.
> > On that time I could not even read the little prince in English, 
> But I bought the book, take it home and not being able to afford a 
> dictionary I went on reading it strait away. I used to stare at the 
> words and read sentences and paragraphs over and over, until by the 
> context I would get the meaning of the word.
> > Now I have a good dictionary with me, but most of the time I keep 
> using this old tecnic
> > The house I lived in, was a little typical dutch two floors house 
> with a garden on the back, that belonged to an old car company. 
> > The house was builded for the workers of the company and had been 
> abandoned for several years. The owner aloud as to skuot it until 
he 
> sells the whole company.
> > On this street there were just factories, car companies, a 
> political refugee center, a coffee shop on a boat at the canal and 
my 
> little square brick house with huge windows and a glass door with 
> lace courtains. During the day track, noise and dust. At night time 
> all was closed and the families of the refugee center used to go 
out 
> for a little walk and the street became full with calm 
conversations 
> in all foreign Asiatic and African languages and songs. The men 
used 
> to sing to each other as in conversation.
> > We had no electricity but gas and water and a light ball on the 
> toilet that we made work with a car battery. I used to spend long 
> time locked in my room lighted with candles reading this book, 
> looking at the abyss of consciousness. Surrounded by exotic signs
> > What a beautiful time. I think the desire to understand that I 
> had, was what really worked the best, as tecnically, with the 
> knowlege of english I had, reading such a book would have been 
almost 
> imposible.
> > Nevertheless suddenly four years where gone and I decided to 
> settle, go to school to learn the language properly and find a 
proper 
> job. I inscribed myself on school, came for a little holidays to 
> Spain to see my family and never came back, but to visit some 
friends 
> now and then.
> > 
> > I hoped I did not bore you with all this. I have such magical 
> regards of that time.
> > Still I want to learn Dutch and German also, they are dear 
> languages to my ear, it is one of my future projects.
> > 
> > Tot sinz und slaap leker
> > 
> > Raquel
> > 
> > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > Hi Raquel, so you have lived in Den Hague.How many years?
> > And have you learned our language?
> > I also try to read all TS stuff in English, for it is a language 
> most 
> > countries use.But in times before people did not learn very well 
in 
> > schools.For the time now, we see on television lot of American 
> films 
> > and can visit BBC, so easier for us.
> > And after a year following discussions here, also one learn to 
use 
> it 
> > better.
> > We are as the Masters, they also have had few vocabulary, 
> especially 
> > Morya, he wrote in one of his letters to Hume.Otherwise he could 
> > explain himself very claer.And that is it.
> > 
> > Here in our country we have a lot of old theosophists, near 70 or 
> > elder, they also cannot read or understand the English.
> > 
> > Some books I think , were used a lot of strange English words.
> > Then one needs to use the dictionary more than he should like to 
do.
> > That is no peasure I can tell you.But we learn every day more.
> > There are words I need to find again and again, I cannot keep in 
my 
> > mind, but sure everybody will have that.
> > Hope you liked the work in Spanish from prof Nehru.
> > Christina
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Christina
> > > Thank you again for details, I did no know that was the first 
> > edition, of the SD, nevertheless, the printing house, Sirio it is 
> > almost correct, but not the best.
> > > I know Theosophical Society in Spain has good translations and 
> > printings, I´ve already downloaded a few books from their web 
site. 
> I
> > ´m not a registered member of the TS, and the bit I know of their 
> > work in this country is through Internet, again for the bit I 
have 
> > search, they have material enough for a live time study if one 
has 
> > interest.
> > > It is very easy in your country to find both, good translations 
> > and books in English. What happens is, as most Spanish don´t 
speak 
> > English, the books that are not translated are not also to sell, 
as 
> > far as I know. .They might be in Barcelona, Madrid or Valencia, 
but 
> I 
> > have not been there yet and Granada is a dessert for books. 
> Sometimes 
> > searching for a book, the salesman would tell me they don´t print 
> > this book anymore, so he would not have to bother to find it out 
> for 
> > me.
> > > I menage reading in English, to my surprise, luckily better I 
can 
> > talk or write.
> > > I began my studies of Theosophy in your country when I was 
living 
> > in The Hague, when I came back to south Spain I was so 
disappointed 
> > of the lack of information I could find, I do not mean that there 
> is 
> > not, it is just hard to find. 
> > > 
> > > A few pages from Internet have proof to be very reliable to me, 
> > as Amazon and 
> > > Health Research. I was so happy when I got my first book 
shipped 
> > after so many years coming across with nothing, I can not 
explain. 
> At 
> > one point I was not happy with the publishing house and I ask to 
> > return the book. They refund me the money and ask me to keep the 
> book 
> > as the price of shipping back was prohibitive, still I agree with 
> > you, I would better walk down the shop and have a look for 
myself, 
> > even shafe the money of shippings that many times are more 
> expensive 
> > than the books themselves.
> > > 
> > > The link you send me looks very interesting, but I could no 
> > executed for some reason, however, I thing at the moment I´ll 
keep 
> > reading in English and buying through internet, till I have a 
> little 
> > holiday to Barcelona. I really miss to get in to a non digital 
> > Theosophical shop.
> > > 
> > > Happy New Year
> > > 
> > > Love and Ligth to All beings
> > > 
> > > Raquel
> > > 
> > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > Reaquel the SD you have is the earliest publishing , for 
> > that time 
> > > there were 7 volumes.
> > > 
> > > In our center and publishing house in Amsterdam we have all te 
> books
> > > , but I don't think we have digitalized so much as Canada has 
> done.
> > > Indeed we can be happy with the work they have done there.
> > > Also in our country we have good translations, but nothing to 
be 
> > > found on internet.Not one book.
> > > And if we see some interesting books for low prizes on 
internet, 
> we 
> > > cannot take risk for paying and afterwards not getting that 
books.
> > > I think all loges need to have the most important books on 
table 
> > for 
> > > sale.Also in your country are people translating the books into 
> > > Spanish.If you visit yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/
> > divya-
> > > jnana/?yguid=162317756 here prof Nehru has translated his work 
> into 
> > > Spanish.You can find after membership in files.
> > > 
> > > Christina
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez 
<raquel_rpj@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Christina for the advise.
> > > > I agree with Theosophical Publishing House, but Spanish 
> > > Theosophical shops in Spain are too far from Granada. 
Impossible 
> to 
> > > buy it here, once I ask to a friend that traveled to Barcelona 
to 
> > get 
> > > me The Secret Doctrine, and he came back with seven books of a 
> > rather 
> > > bad quality printing, not as bad as Kessinger. 
> > > > I have to say, I have never seen by myself a Theosophical 
shop 
> in 
> > > Spain, they are not as common as in Holland. Also many books 
are 
> > not 
> > > translated in Spanish, and books in English are not easy to 
find.
> > > > In Den Haag library, you can find books, of every subject in 
> > > every language, this is very different here. In Granada´s 
library 
> I 
> > > could not find not one book related to Theosophy. Apart all the 
> > > inherent knowledge attached to this city by the history of 
> > > civilizations, I thing Granada has not jet recover from the 
burn 
> of 
> > > the books carried by inquisition and the strong repression of 
40 
> > > years of a military ditadura.
> > > > Thanks to the Internet I can have an essay approach to 
certain 
> > > books. Although I rather walk to the shop and handle the book 
by 
> > > myself.
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards
> > > > 
> > > > Raquel
> > > > 
> > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > > Raquel.
> > > > Better buy it from the Theosophical Publishing House.Adyar.
> > > > I have it from 1966 first edition bought from our Publishing 
> > house 
> > > in 
> > > > Amsterdam, they ordered from Adyar long time ago I think, for 
I 
> > > have 
> > > > it for half a year.In Spain you will also have possibilities 
to 
> > get 
> > > > from Adyar.
> > > > Books ordered from internet we have bad experiences, for they 
> let 
> > > pay 
> > > > you and never send the books.
> > > > Christina
> > > > 
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez 
> <raquel_rpj@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I found this if anyone is interested.
> > > > > Tibet and Tulku first edition from 1966.
> > > > > http://www.antiqbook.com/books/
> bookinfo.phtml?o=bookc&bnr=13250
> > > > > I wish I could buy it, but I am too delayed on my homework.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > > 
> > > > > Raquel
> > > > > 
> > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > > > John, have you read from the Caves,jungles of Hindustan 
> > > > by the hand 
> > > > > of HPB,as Radda Bai.
> > > > > I think in Russian she had expressed totally, but her niece 
> > > > > translated the stories into English.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Wonderful the story "An Island of mystery".
> > > > > The orchest; the gigantic sirka reeds(vina- devi)and the 
> > bamboos, 
> > > > > some musical fantasy born of the howling and whistling of 
the 
> > > wind.
> > > > > A horrid fancy haunts the bewildered heads, the image that 
the
> > > > > invisible artists strain the veins and not the strings of 
> > > imaginary 
> > > > > violins. Real fun that Olcott thought that Gulab-Singh 
caused 
> > > that 
> > > > > phenomonon and had no idea it was natural acoustic caused 
by 
> > the 
> > > > wind.
> > > > > I would have been there too!
> > > > > Also I can understand Barborka's pity to turn away from 
Caves 
> > and 
> > > > > jungles and the talentful writings from HPB's pen. Tomorrow 
I 
> > buy 
> > > > > that book. Realy great such entertainment.
> > > > > Christina
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > Thanks for your comments and reply. Well, I don't want to 
> > give 
> > > > > the impression that I have any special knowledge of how 
this 
> > was 
> > > > > effected on H.P.B. what I say is only my personal opinion. 
> > First 
> > > I 
> > > > > hold the view that the Seventh Atmic and Sixth Buddhic 
> > Principals 
> > > > are 
> > > > > both Transcendental immutable unchangable and beyond the 
> > ability 
> > > to 
> > > > > effect of even Mahatma or Dhyana Buddha for even they are 
> > > > > Personalizations. So what remains that is not of 
> Transcendental 
> > > > State 
> > > > > are the five lower Principles the Sthula, Prana, Linga, 
Kama, 
> > > Manas 
> > > > > (divided of upper and lower mind). I believe it was one of 
> > these 
> > > > that 
> > > > > was separated and retained during her Initiations in Tibet. 
> > > > According 
> > > > > to Tibet and Tulku one thing this facilitated when the 
> ability 
> > to 
> > > > > communicate to a higher permanent degree with her at all 
> times 
> > > and 
> > > > > to allow the direct use of her vehicle when desired. Her 
> Astral 
> > > > Bell 
> > > > > that she always heard on the current signaling the approach 
> or 
> > > > > nearness of her Masters or a special important message. Pe
> > > > > > rhaps it also was a mechanism that made possible her 
> ability 
> > to 
> > > > > make use of Akashic Records to read and transcribe directly 
> the 
> > > > > literary contents she placed in her works. In addition it 
is 
> > said 
> > > > > that by retaining the Principle her Oath of Silence was 
> > insured, 
> > > > for 
> > > > > to violate it would cause permanent loss to her of this 
> > Principle.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There is some indication that the Ancient Egyptian also 
had 
> > > some 
> > > > > type of knowledge in this matter regarding the "Shabti" and 
> > > > > energization that permitted unique interface with the 
> > individual 
> > > in 
> > > > > works that are not Theosophical and deal especially with 
> > Egyptian 
> > > > > Matters only. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The depth and breath of the contents of Tibet and Tulku 
are 
> > too 
> > > > > deep and complex to explain like this. But my eyes were 
> opened 
> > on 
> > > > > many, many things that directly apply to how the Masters 
> > project 
> > > > > their Image and Mind, send messages, make use of a chela 
> > remotely 
> > > > and 
> > > > > so many other modes that are a unique ability of the 
Mahatma 
> or 
> > > > full 
> > > > > Adept. When H.P.B. spent five weeks exteriorized from her 
> > > physical 
> > > > > body where else but in Tibet and Tulku are the further 
> allowed 
> > > > > details found about this? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This work will always remain with me and in my library it 
> > > offers 
> > > > > deep understanding and explanations not found in any other 
> > > > > Theosophical works. At the time I first purchased my 
> hardbound 
> > > > > edition from a rare book dealer I was very deeply involved 
in 
> a 
> > > > most 
> > > > > phenomenal UFO Case in 1976, I was experiencing many things 
> one 
> > > can 
> > > > > only read about in H.P.B.'s life --- conversant real time 
> > > > telepathy, 
> > > > > apportment of objects by the UFO Experiencer, Astral bells 
> > > ringing 
> > > > on 
> > > > > a regular basis, and much more! I was looking for something 
> > that 
> > > > > might explain who was the "Projector", how was it done, how 
> can 
> > > > they 
> > > > > change time itself? And I found excellent correlates in 
Tibet 
> > and 
> > > > > Tulku no where else have I found this important instructive 
> > > content 
> > > > > in more than 32 years. It was one of the things that caused 
> me 
> > to 
> > > > > find Theosophy many years ago.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > John 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > > > > Sorry, it is not the language, it is me.I read it too 
> quickly 
> > > and
> > > > > > think directly, better forget the thinking by reading.And 
I 
> > had 
> > > > some
> > > > > > one on WinLive messager, so too much.Later when I read 
> again 
> > I 
> > > > saw 
> > > > > you
> > > > > > say the right thing they pointed out on page 144.
> > > > > > But indeed how they could take off one of the lower 
> > principles, 
> > > > then
> > > > > > she would have been not completed by herself.Possibly she 
> was 
> > > not 
> > > > > and
> > > > > > for that they give her the 7th and take off the motive 
for 
> > > talk, 
> > > > so 
> > > > > a
> > > > > > part of the fifth away.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Opera browser have problems with this group, for all this 
> > > > messages 
> > > > > are
> > > > > > not there.I opened in my other browser.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > i have the book for some months, so I have not read all.
> > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. We must have a language thing 
> > here. 
> > > I
> > > > > > said they retained One of the Seven Principles of her 
> Economy 
> > of
> > > > > > Being. I didn't say which one. You through translation 
> > between 
> > > > > English
> > > > > > and Dutch missed my true meaning. But thanks for you 
reply 
> I 
> > am 
> > > > > happy
> > > > > > that you have read T.T. , I thought if anyone has it 
would 
> be 
> > > you 
> > > > > and
> > > > > > the thought was a truth.
> > > > > > > I appreciate your response and comments. My point was 
to 
> > give 
> > > > some
> > > > > > expanded basis for accounting for some of the 
peculiarities 
> > > > observed
> > > > > > in Madame Blavatskys behaviors that create such a 
negative 
> > > > response
> > > > > > towards her.This was asked about by members here. How 
many 
> > > people
> > > > > > could do otherwise if they were missing one of the 
necessary
> > > > > > Principles of Wholeness of Being? I don't want to 
predefine 
> > > from 
> > > > my
> > > > > > own views for others so I hope they will read Tibet and 
> Tulku 
> > > and
> > > > > > benefit. The Tulku are the Sky Walkers and Nirmanakaya 
from 
> a 
> > > > > Tibetan
> > > > > > view. I got a kick when I first watched Star Wars and the 
> > Hero 
> > > was
> > > > > > Luke Skywalker who had a real Skywalker ( Obe 1 kenobi) 
as 
> > his 
> > > > > Mentor
> > > > > > (a correlate metaphor for the Mahatma). In my view I was 
> > greatly
> > > > > > helped in grasping many things one reads of in the 
History 
> of 
> > > her 
> > > > > life
> > > > > > and without the explanations detailed in this Book I 
would 
> > > never 
> > > > > have
> > > > > > had the expanded view on how the "Communication" actually 
> > takes 
> > > > > place
> > > > > > between the Brothers and Blavatsky and others
> > > > > > > and the several different modes that are used in 
> different 
> > > > forms.
> > > > > > You having read it know this, it will always be with you.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > > > > > Thank you , for you the same wishes and that the world 
> may 
> > > have 
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > peace.Especially the people on it.
> > > > > > > NASA is realy great and does not earn people write 
stupid 
> > > books 
> > > > on
> > > > > > > them.Here we have Delft and Eindhoven , which 
technology 
> > they 
> > > > > share.
> > > > > > > Now we produce a new collapsible bookreader, which we 
can 
> > use 
> > > > very
> > > > > > > easy and also can be weared in GSM's. Easy to take with 
> > you, 
> > > > put a
> > > > > > > card reader or readingUSB stick in it and you have a 
> total 
> > > from 
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > than 160 gig to take with you.Very handy.All 
theosophical 
> > > books 
> > > > > in a
> > > > > > > minute .It reads better than from a book for it have a 
> > better 
> > > > > reading
> > > > > > > field and have special light, better for the eyes.
> > > > > > > This year we bring it on the market.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have read pag 143/4 - 363/4/5 in my book T and T from 
> > > > Barborka.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Her emotional expression is one of the square 
underlying 
> > > > > principles,
> > > > > > > so normally and (why they take the seventh principle
> > ?),that 
> > > > would
> > > > > > > bring a disaster to her and the world, they never 
should 
> do 
> > > > that.
> > > > > > > That you have read wrong. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > She needed to prepare the way for mankind.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And the fact of the 7 th principle in the complete 
human 
> > > > > being.That
> > > > > > > is the point.Otherwise the human being is not complete 
> and 
> > a 
> > > > > danger
> > > > > > > for himself and others.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > She needed to show and exercizing the siddhis of the 
6th 
> > > > > principle in
> > > > > > > human, so she could warn us for the danger in them.As 
we 
> > all 
> > > > know 
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > can do good with the Ajna developement, but also do 
wrong 
> > > with 
> > > > > it. It
> > > > > > > is the heaviest power we have.For that she must have 
had 
> > the 
> > > > > seventh
> > > > > > > principle , otherwise she would fallen down into and 
> > staying 
> > > in 
> > > > > that 6
> > > > > > > principle and a danger, if no control from the 7 
> > > th.Sahasrara. 
> > > > > > > The 7(sahasrara) and the 6(ajna) are to be needed to 
stay 
> > in 
> > > the
> > > > > > > higher mind and come out of the lower mind.That is what 
I 
> > > know.
> > > > > > > But she lived in a time of no developement like we have 
> now 
> > > and 
> > > > > most 
> > > > > > > people were very crazy of mediumship and spiritism.If 
> that 
> > > > should 
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > on, we would have the atlantis from the past, better we 
> > have 
> > > > the 
> > > > > post
> > > > > > > atlantic period now and the possibility to turn back to 
> > > > spiritual
> > > > > > > developement, which brings wisdom, wealth and happines.
> > > > > > > That is what jezus predicted , the kingdom of god, the 
> > > kingdom,=
> > > > > > > nothing outside, but inside ourselves; the total 
> > developement 
> > > > in 
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > human to become human, human with Divinesoul, 
> Spiritualsoul 
> > > and
> > > > > > > Humansoul, Atma,Buddhi,Manas in one person, the UNITY 
> > working 
> > > > > with the
> > > > > > > 4 lower principles, all together.All need to be 
> > > perfected.That 
> > > > is 
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > way.And happely we have not all the same, psychophysical
> > > > > > > conditionsThan we would be like the UNOX sausage.
> > > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > > > Hi and Happy New Year to you. Thanks for the neat 
> useful 
> > > > links 
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > NASA they are really great archives. I agree with you 
NASA
> > > > > > > historically has had many, many other Nation Partners 
> then 
> > > and 
> > > > > today
> > > > > > > also. Like The ESA of the European Union, The Japanese 
> > Space 
> > > > > Agency,
> > > > > > > The Australian Partnership that Tracking and Data 
Receipt 
> > > > Station 
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > still there now and has recently been engaged in 
> providing 
> > > the 
> > > > > similar
> > > > > > > services as it did during the Apollo Missions among 
> others. 
> > > We 
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > have Brazilian and other South American Partners in 
Space 
> > and 
> > > > many
> > > > > > > tracking Stations all over the World with the complete 
> > > consent 
> > > > and
> > > > > > > agreement of the Governments of many Nations.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The entire World sat rapt in utter amazement and 
> watched 
> > and
> > > > > > > listened to the Moon Missions and the Moon landings. 
All 
> > over 
> > > > the
> > > > > > > world the media received and recorded it at each and 
> > everyone 
> > > > of 
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > TV Stations and Radio Stations of the "FREE WORLD" that 
> > > > > rreceivedand
> > > > > > > resent the live signal out to their populace! The 
> exception 
> > > > were 
> > > > > those
> > > > > > > behind the Iron Curtain of the Soviet EMPIRE and the 
> other 
> > > > > hegemony of
> > > > > > > the Communist Ghouldom!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > These Redactionists of history invent strawman and 
red 
> > > herring
> > > > > > > issues for political agendas even today they just 
cannot 
> > > accept 
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > lost WWII and they lost the Cold War and they will 
always 
> > > remain
> > > > > > > losers to rational people anywhere on earth.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > BTW, when I posted about pages 143-44 of Tibet and 
> Tulku 
> > is 
> > > > was
> > > > > > > because i wanted to point to what was done to H.P.B. by 
> the 
> > > > > Brothers
> > > > > > > -----they removed 1 of her seven principles from her 
and 
> > > > retained 
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > in their keeping to serve several purposes, the result 
of 
> > > this 
> > > > is 
> > > > > seen
> > > > > > > in her personality and temperament. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > John 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > > > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > > > > > > Cass,
> > > > > > > > I think, the NASA( are not only Americans)and also 
work 
> > in 
> > > > > > > > company with Swiss can have LOL about all the stupids 
> on 
> > > > > > > > earth.
> > > > > > > > Why you think you have INTERNET
> > > > > > > > Why you think we have solar cells to warm the houses?
> > > > > > > > Why you think we have digital camera's and all kind 
off 
> > > stuff 
> > > > > > > > we can use now and with pleasure if you use it well.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Then what they go to find out more.I keep silent!I 
will 
> > see.
> > > > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva 
> > <silva_cass@> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Trouble is Christina, I don't trust NASA
> > > > > > > > > Cass
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > For people want to know more see: 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Slides 8x8 made by Hasselblatt camera by Armstrong 
or 
> > > Aldin.
> > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/
> ch14-
> > > > 4.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > From there you can f ind a lot of stuff they give 
for 
> > > > seeing.
> > > > > > > > > Most pictures are made by 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/apollo/
welcome.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/history/apollo/apollo.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollo204/
> > > > crew.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollo204/
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4204/
> > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4214/
> > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/
> > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
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