Theos-Talk Archives (January 2008 Message tt00107)

Reaquel the SD you have is the earliest publishing , for that time 
there were 7 volumes.

In our center and publishing house in Amsterdam we have all te books
 , but I don't think we have digitalized so much as Canada has done.
Indeed we can be happy with the work they have done there.
Also in our country we have good translations, but nothing to be 
found on internet.Not one book.
And if we see some interesting books for low prizes on internet, we 
cannot take risk for paying and afterwards not getting that books.
I think all loges need to have the most important books on table for 
sale.Also in your country are people translating the books into 
Spanish.If you visit yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/divya-
jnana/?yguid=162317756   here prof Nehru has translated his work into 
Spanish.You can find after membership in files.

Christina



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@...> 
wrote:
>
> Thank you Christina for the advise.
>   I agree with Theosophical Publishing House, but Spanish 
Theosophical shops in Spain are too far from Granada. Impossible to 
buy it here, once I ask to a friend that traveled to Barcelona to get 
me The Secret Doctrine, and he came back with seven books of a rather 
bad quality printing, not as bad as Kessinger. 
>   I have to say, I have never seen by myself a Theosophical shop in 
Spain, they are not as common as in Holland. Also many books are not 
translated in Spanish, and books in English are not easy to find.
>   In Den Haag library, you can find books, of every subject in 
every language, this is very different here. In Granada´s library I 
could not find not one book related to Theosophy. Apart all the 
inherent knowledge attached to this city by the history of 
civilizations, I thing Granada has not jet recover from the burn of 
the books carried by inquisition and the strong repression of 40 
years of a military ditadura.
>   Thanks to the Internet I can have an essay approach to certain 
books. Although I rather walk to the shop and handle the book by 
myself.
>    
>   Best regards
>    
>   Raquel
>   
> christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...> escribió:
>           Raquel.
> Better buy it from the Theosophical Publishing House.Adyar.
> I have it from 1966 first edition bought from our Publishing house 
in 
> Amsterdam, they ordered from Adyar long time ago I think, for I 
have 
> it for half a year.In Spain you will also have possibilities to get 
> from Adyar.
> Books ordered from internet we have bad experiences, for they let 
pay 
> you and never send the books.
> Christina
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I found this if anyone is interested.
> > Tibet and Tulku first edition from 1966.
> > http://www.antiqbook.com/books/bookinfo.phtml?o=bookc&bnr=13250
> > I wish I could buy it, but I am too delayed on my homework.
> > 
> > Best regards
> > 
> > Raquel
> > 
> > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > John, have you read from the Caves,jungles of Hindustan 
> by the hand 
> > of HPB,as Radda Bai.
> > I think in Russian she had expressed totally, but her niece 
> > translated the stories into English.
> > 
> > Wonderful the story "An Island of mystery".
> > The orchest; the gigantic sirka reeds(vina- devi)and the bamboos, 
> > some musical fantasy born of the howling and whistling of the 
wind.
> > A horrid fancy haunts the bewildered heads, the image that the
> > invisible artists strain the veins and not the strings of 
imaginary 
> > violins. Real fun that Olcott thought that Gulab-Singh caused 
that 
> > phenomonon and had no idea it was natural acoustic caused by the 
> wind.
> > I would have been there too!
> > Also I can understand Barborka's pity to turn away from Caves and 
> > jungles and the talentful writings from HPB's pen. Tomorrow I buy 
> > that book. Realy great such entertainment.
> > Christina
> > 
> > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Christina,
> > > Thanks for your comments and reply. Well, I don't want to give 
> > the impression that I have any special knowledge of how this was 
> > effected on H.P.B. what I say is only my personal opinion. First 
I 
> > hold the view that the Seventh Atmic and Sixth Buddhic Principals 
> are 
> > both Transcendental immutable unchangable and beyond the ability 
to 
> > effect of even Mahatma or Dhyana Buddha for even they are 
> > Personalizations. So what remains that is not of Transcendental 
> State 
> > are the five lower Principles the Sthula, Prana, Linga, Kama, 
Manas 
> > (divided of upper and lower mind). I believe it was one of these 
> that 
> > was separated and retained during her Initiations in Tibet. 
> According 
> > to Tibet and Tulku one thing this facilitated when the ability to 
> > communicate to a higher permanent degree with her at all times 
and 
> > to allow the direct use of her vehicle when desired. Her Astral 
> Bell 
> > that she always heard on the current signaling the approach or 
> > nearness of her Masters or a special important message. Pe
> > > rhaps it also was a mechanism that made possible her ability to 
> > make use of Akashic Records to read and transcribe directly the 
> > literary contents she placed in her works. In addition it is said 
> > that by retaining the Principle her Oath of Silence was insured, 
> for 
> > to violate it would cause permanent loss to her of this Principle.
> > > 
> > > There is some indication that the Ancient Egyptian also had 
some 
> > type of knowledge in this matter regarding the "Shabti" and 
> > energization that permitted unique interface with the individual 
in 
> > works that are not Theosophical and deal especially with Egyptian 
> > Matters only. 
> > > 
> > > The depth and breath of the contents of Tibet and Tulku are too 
> > deep and complex to explain like this. But my eyes were opened on 
> > many, many things that directly apply to how the Masters project 
> > their Image and Mind, send messages, make use of a chela remotely 
> and 
> > so many other modes that are a unique ability of the Mahatma or 
> full 
> > Adept. When H.P.B. spent five weeks exteriorized from her 
physical 
> > body where else but in Tibet and Tulku are the further allowed 
> > details found about this? 
> > > 
> > > This work will always remain with me and in my library it 
offers 
> > deep understanding and explanations not found in any other 
> > Theosophical works. At the time I first purchased my hardbound 
> > edition from a rare book dealer I was very deeply involved in a 
> most 
> > phenomenal UFO Case in 1976, I was experiencing many things one 
can 
> > only read about in H.P.B.'s life --- conversant real time 
> telepathy, 
> > apportment of objects by the UFO Experiencer, Astral bells 
ringing 
> on 
> > a regular basis, and much more! I was looking for something that 
> > might explain who was the "Projector", how was it done, how can 
> they 
> > change time itself? And I found excellent correlates in Tibet and 
> > Tulku no where else have I found this important instructive 
content 
> > in more than 32 years. It was one of the things that caused me to 
> > find Theosophy many years ago.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > John 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > Sorry, it is not the language, it is me.I read it too quickly 
and
> > > think directly, better forget the thinking by reading.And I had 
> some
> > > one on WinLive messager, so too much.Later when I read again I 
> saw 
> > you
> > > say the right thing they pointed out on page 144.
> > > But indeed how they could take off one of the lower principles, 
> then
> > > she would have been not completed by herself.Possibly she was 
not 
> > and
> > > for that they give her the 7th and take off the motive for 
talk, 
> so 
> > a
> > > part of the fifth away.
> > > 
> > > Opera browser have problems with this group, for all this 
> messages 
> > are
> > > not there.I opened in my other browser.
> > > 
> > > i have the book for some months, so I have not read all.
> > > Christina
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Christina,
> > > > Thanks for your comments. We must have a language thing here. 
I
> > > said they retained One of the Seven Principles of her Economy of
> > > Being. I didn't say which one. You through translation between 
> > English
> > > and Dutch missed my true meaning. But thanks for you reply I am 
> > happy
> > > that you have read T.T. , I thought if anyone has it would be 
you 
> > and
> > > the thought was a truth.
> > > > I appreciate your response and comments. My point was to give 
> some
> > > expanded basis for accounting for some of the peculiarities 
> observed
> > > in Madame Blavatskys behaviors that create such a negative 
> response
> > > towards her.This was asked about by members here. How many 
people
> > > could do otherwise if they were missing one of the necessary
> > > Principles of Wholeness of Being? I don't want to predefine 
from 
> my
> > > own views for others so I hope they will read Tibet and Tulku 
and
> > > benefit. The Tulku are the Sky Walkers and Nirmanakaya from a 
> > Tibetan
> > > view. I got a kick when I first watched Star Wars and the Hero 
was
> > > Luke Skywalker who had a real Skywalker ( Obe 1 kenobi) as his 
> > Mentor
> > > (a correlate metaphor for the Mahatma). In my view I was greatly
> > > helped in grasping many things one reads of in the History of 
her 
> > life
> > > and without the explanations detailed in this Book I would 
never 
> > have
> > > had the expanded view on how the "Communication" actually takes 
> > place
> > > between the Brothers and Blavatsky and others
> > > > and the several different modes that are used in different 
> forms.
> > > You having read it know this, it will always be with you.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > > Thank you , for you the same wishes and that the world may 
have 
> > more
> > > > peace.Especially the people on it.
> > > > NASA is realy great and does not earn people write stupid 
books 
> on
> > > > them.Here we have Delft and Eindhoven , which technology they 
> > share.
> > > > Now we produce a new collapsible bookreader, which we can use 
> very
> > > > easy and also can be weared in GSM's. Easy to take with you, 
> put a
> > > > card reader or readingUSB stick in it and you have a total 
from 
> > more
> > > > than 160 gig to take with you.Very handy.All theosophical 
books 
> > in a
> > > > minute .It reads better than from a book for it have a better 
> > reading
> > > > field and have special light, better for the eyes.
> > > > This year we bring it on the market.
> > > > 
> > > > I have read pag 143/4 - 363/4/5 in my book T and T from 
> Barborka.
> > > > 
> > > > Her emotional expression is one of the square underlying 
> > principles,
> > > > so normally and (why they take the seventh principle ?),that 
> would
> > > > bring a disaster to her and the world, they never should do 
> that.
> > > > That you have read wrong. 
> > > > 
> > > > She needed to prepare the way for mankind.
> > > > 
> > > > And the fact of the 7 th principle in the complete human 
> > being.That
> > > > is the point.Otherwise the human being is not complete and a 
> > danger
> > > > for himself and others.
> > > > 
> > > > She needed to show and exercizing the siddhis of the 6th 
> > principle in
> > > > human, so she could warn us for the danger in them.As we all 
> know 
> > one
> > > > can do good with the Ajna developement, but also do wrong 
with 
> > it. It
> > > > is the heaviest power we have.For that she must have had the 
> > seventh
> > > > principle , otherwise she would fallen down into and staying 
in 
> > that 6
> > > > principle and a danger, if no control from the 7 
th.Sahasrara. 
> > > > The 7(sahasrara) and the 6(ajna) are to be needed to stay in 
the
> > > > higher mind and come out of the lower mind.That is what I 
know.
> > > > But she lived in a time of no developement like we have now 
and 
> > most 
> > > > people were very crazy of mediumship and spiritism.If that 
> should 
> > go
> > > > on, we would have the atlantis from the past, better we have 
> the 
> > post
> > > > atlantic period now and the possibility to turn back to 
> spiritual
> > > > developement, which brings wisdom, wealth and happines.
> > > > That is what jezus predicted , the kingdom of god, the 
kingdom,=
> > > > nothing outside, but inside ourselves; the total developement 
> in 
> > the
> > > > human to become human, human with Divinesoul, Spiritualsoul 
and
> > > > Humansoul, Atma,Buddhi,Manas in one person, the UNITY working 
> > with the
> > > > 4 lower principles, all together.All need to be 
perfected.That 
> is 
> > the
> > > > way.And happely we have not all the same, psychophysical
> > > > conditionsThan we would be like the UNOX sausage.
> > > > Christina
> > > > 
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Christina,
> > > > > Hi and Happy New Year to you. Thanks for the neat useful 
> links 
> > for
> > > > NASA they are really great archives. I agree with you NASA
> > > > historically has had many, many other Nation Partners then 
and 
> > today
> > > > also. Like The ESA of the European Union, The Japanese Space 
> > Agency,
> > > > The Australian Partnership that Tracking and Data Receipt 
> Station 
> > is
> > > > still there now and has recently been engaged in providing 
the 
> > similar
> > > > services as it did during the Apollo Missions among others. 
We 
> > also
> > > > have Brazilian and other South American Partners in Space and 
> many
> > > > tracking Stations all over the World with the complete 
consent 
> and
> > > > agreement of the Governments of many Nations.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The entire World sat rapt in utter amazement and watched and
> > > > listened to the Moon Missions and the Moon landings. All over 
> the
> > > > world the media received and recorded it at each and everyone 
> of 
> > the
> > > > TV Stations and Radio Stations of the "FREE WORLD" that 
> > rreceivedand
> > > > resent the live signal out to their populace! The exception 
> were 
> > those
> > > > behind the Iron Curtain of the Soviet EMPIRE and the other 
> > hegemony of
> > > > the Communist Ghouldom!
> > > > > 
> > > > > These Redactionists of history invent strawman and red 
herring
> > > > issues for political agendas even today they just cannot 
accept 
> > they
> > > > lost WWII and they lost the Cold War and they will always 
remain
> > > > losers to rational people anywhere on earth.
> > > > > 
> > > > > BTW, when I posted about pages 143-44 of Tibet and Tulku is 
> was
> > > > because i wanted to point to what was done to H.P.B. by the 
> > Brothers
> > > > -----they removed 1 of her seven principles from her and 
> retained 
> > it
> > > > in their keeping to serve several purposes, the result of 
this 
> is 
> > seen
> > > > in her personality and temperament. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > John 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > > > Cass,
> > > > > I think, the NASA( are not only Americans)and also work in 
> > > > > company with Swiss can have LOL about all the stupids on 
> > > > > earth.
> > > > > Why you think you have INTERNET
> > > > > Why you think we have solar cells to warm the houses?
> > > > > Why you think we have digital camera's and all kind off 
stuff 
> > > > > we can use now and with pleasure if you use it well.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then what they go to find out more.I keep silent!I will see.
> > > > > Christina
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trouble is Christina, I don't trust NASA
> > > > > > Cass
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For people want to know more see: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Slides 8x8 made by Hasselblatt camera by Armstrong or 
Aldin.
> > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/ch14-
> 4.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From there you can f ind a lot of stuff they give for 
> seeing.
> > > > > > Most pictures are made by 
> > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/apollo/welcome.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/history/apollo/apollo.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollo204/
> crew.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollo204/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4204/
cover.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4214/
cover.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/
cover.html
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