Theos-Talk Archives (January 2008 Message tt00105)

The lifewave it is said moves around the earth from east to west. It 
moved from the middle east into Europe which we identify historically 
as the enlightenment and Europe took up the mantle of world 
domination. It then moved across the Atlantic to the flegling 
democracy in the USA and gradually worked its way from east to west 
across the continent. Now it seems it has jumped the Pacific back to 
China from whence it started ages ago. Now that Chindia is revving up 
I suppose its ok for them to clear away what they perceive as the 
dead wood that stands in the way of their manifest destiny just as 
the western movement did in the prior age. Same-o same-o

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@... wrote:
>
> Richard,
>    I would read up on the subject more there is a wealth on 
information available to inform as to what , where, when why etc in 
regard to Tibetan Buddhism, Dalai Lama who has for decades been well 
established at Dharmasala I believe in India with a large world-wide 
Organization and has not "been on the run". Richaerd Gere is a very 
small cog in the overall picture. The Chinese are a Permanent 
Security Council Member of the UN they hold Veto Power. The UN voted 
to recognize the Chinese Annexation of Tibet and most of the world 
community also recognizes it also. The Dalai Lama himself for a long 
time has publicly recognized and accepted the Chinese as having 
permanent possession of Tibet in his Public formal speeches. The USA 
recognizes it also as do the Eu and Other large Nations including the 
Non-aligned members of the UN.
>   What the Chinese did not successfully murder and destroy of Tibet 
has been largely moved to safe sanctuary's outside of Tibet. It is 
the story of  "How the Swans Came to America" and elsewhere. there 
are many Tibetan Gompa's here in America, they al all over America 
with a large following. It was predicted to happen a long time ago.  
The Dalai lama's Dharmasala HDQTRS has also hosted the expatriation 
of the ancient Bon of Tibet to India and elsewhere complete with 
their large holdings of Lineage Instructions and Archives, they are 
are all out of Tibet and safe. The Skywalkers are forever Skywalkers 
they are no longer beholden to physical bodies. Olmo Rung ling 
remains unassailable and unapproachable as before. Most of us were 
deeply outraged and upset by the Chinese actions and still are but 
reality is reality and beating a dead horse is a futile and 
irrational action. Historical karma is also a factor there is a long 
chain of events involved research can reveal.
> 
> Regards,
> John
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Richard Semock" <semockr@...> 
> I wonder what has happened to the skywalkers now that Communist 
China 
> has taken over and has systematically rooted out and put to the 
sword 
> the monks and monasterys that were the mainstay of Tibetan 
buddhism. 
> 
> The Dalai Lama has been on the run all these years and I dont hear 
a 
> peep out of anyone except for Richard Gere who at least made an 
> attempt to generate interest in their plight. It seems that Red 
China 
> is just too big of a plum for corporate bosses to let anyone upset 
> their apple cart of greed by doing anything about the erasure of 
> Tibetan culture and the headquarters of the brotherhood.
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> >
> > Christina,
> > Thanks for your comments. We must have a language thing here. I 
> said they retained One of the Seven Principles of her Economy of 
> Being. I didn't say which one. You through translation between 
> English and Dutch missed my true meaning. But thanks for you reply 
I 
> am happy that you have read T.T. , I thought if anyone has it would 
> be you and the thought was a truth.
> > I appreciate your response and comments. My point was to give 
some 
> expanded basis for accounting for some of the peculiarities 
observed 
> in Madame Blavatskys behaviors that create such a negative response 
> towards her.This was asked about by members here. How many people 
> could do otherwise if they were missing one of the necessary 
> Principles of Wholeness of Being? I don't want to predefine from my 
> own views for others so I hope they will read Tibet and Tulku and 
> benefit. The Tulku are the Sky Walkers and Nirmanakaya from a 
Tibetan 
> view. I got a kick when I first watched Star Wars and the Hero was 
> Luke Skywalker who had a real Skywalker ( Obe 1 kenobi) as his 
> Mentor (a correlate metaphor for the Mahatma). In my view I was 
> greatly helped in grasping many things one reads of in the History 
of 
> her life and without the explanations detailed in this Book I would 
> never have had the expanded view on how the "Communication" 
actually 
> takes place between the Brothers and Blavatsky and others
> > and the several different modes that are used in different forms. 
> You having read it know this, it will always be with you.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > Thank you , for you the same wishes and that the world may have 
more
> > peace.Especially the people on it.
> > NASA is realy great and does not earn people write stupid books on
> > them.Here we have Delft and Eindhoven , which technology they 
share.
> > Now we produce a new collapsible bookreader, which we can use very
> > easy and also can be weared in GSM's. Easy to take with you, put a
> > card reader or readingUSB stick in it and you have a total from 
more
> > than 160 gig to take with you.Very handy.All theosophical books 
in a
> > minute .It reads better than from a book for it have a better 
> reading
> > field and have special light, better for the eyes.
> > This year we bring it on the market.
> > 
> > I have read pag 143/4 - 363/4/5 in my book T and T from Barborka.
> > 
> > Her emotional expression is one of the square underlying 
principles,
> > so normally and (why they take the seventh principle ?),that would
> > bring a disaster to her and the world, they never should do that.
> > That you have read wrong. 
> > 
> > She needed to prepare the way for mankind.
> > 
> > And the fact of the 7 th principle in the complete human 
being.That
> > is the point.Otherwise the human being is not complete and a 
danger
> > for himself and others.
> > 
> > She needed to show and exercizing the siddhis of the 6th 
principle 
> in
> > human, so she could warn us for the danger in them.As we all know 
> one
> > can do good with the Ajna developement, but also do wrong with 
it. 
> It
> > is the heaviest power we have.For that she must have had the 
seventh
> > principle , otherwise she would fallen down into and staying in 
> that 6
> > principle and a danger, if no control from the 7 th.Sahasrara. 
> > The 7(sahasrara) and the 6(ajna) are to be needed to stay in the
> > higher mind and come out of the lower mind.That is what I know.
> > But she lived in a time of no developement like we have now and 
> most 
> > people were very crazy of mediumship and spiritism.If that should 
go
> > on, we would have the atlantis from the past, better we have the 
> post
> > atlantic period now and the possibility to turn back to spiritual
> > developement, which brings wisdom, wealth and happines.
> > That is what jezus predicted , the kingdom of god, the kingdom,=
> > nothing outside, but inside ourselves; the total developement in 
the
> > human to become human, human with Divinesoul, Spiritualsoul and
> > Humansoul, Atma,Buddhi,Manas in one person, the UNITY working 
with 
> the
> > 4 lower principles, all together.All need to be perfected.That is 
> the
> > way.And happely we have not all the same, psychophysical
> > conditionsThan we would be like the UNOX sausage.
> > Christina
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Christina,
> > > Hi and Happy New Year to you. Thanks for the neat useful links 
for
> > NASA they are really great archives. I agree with you NASA
> > historically has had many, many other Nation Partners then and 
today
> > also. Like The ESA of the European Union, The Japanese Space 
Agency,
> > The Australian Partnership that Tracking and Data Receipt Station 
is
> > still there now and has recently been engaged in providing the 
> similar
> > services as it did during the Apollo Missions among others. We 
also
> > have Brazilian and other South American Partners in Space and many
> > tracking Stations all over the World with the complete consent and
> > agreement of the Governments of many Nations.
> > > 
> > > The entire World sat rapt in utter amazement and watched and
> > listened to the Moon Missions and the Moon landings. All over the
> > world the media received and recorded it at each and everyone of 
the
> > TV Stations and Radio Stations of the "FREE WORLD" that 
rreceivedand
> > resent the live signal out to their populace! The exception were 
> those
> > behind the Iron Curtain of the Soviet EMPIRE and the other 
hegemony 
> of
> > the Communist Ghouldom!
> > > 
> > > These Redactionists of history invent strawman and red herring
> > issues for political agendas even today they just cannot accept 
they
> > lost WWII and they lost the Cold War and they will always remain
> > losers to rational people anywhere on earth.
> > > 
> > > BTW, when I posted about pages 143-44 of Tibet and Tulku is was
> > because i wanted to point to what was done to H.P.B. by the 
Brothers
> > -----they removed 1 of her seven principles from her and retained 
it
> > in their keeping to serve several purposes, the result of this is 
> seen
> > in her personality and temperament. 
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > John 
> > > 
> > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > Cass,
> > > I think, the NASA( are not only Americans)and also work in 
> > > company with Swiss can have LOL about all the stupids on 
> > > earth.
> > > Why you think you have INTERNET
> > > Why you think we have solar cells to warm the houses?
> > > Why you think we have digital camera's and all kind off stuff 
> > > we can use now and with pleasure if you use it well.
> > > 
> > > Then what they go to find out more.I keep silent!I will see.
> > > Christina
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Trouble is Christina, I don't trust NASA
> > > > Cass
> > > > 
> > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > For people want to know more see: 
> > > > 
> > > > Slides 8x8 made by Hasselblatt camera by Armstrong or Aldin.
> > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/ch14-4.html
> > > > 
> > > > From there you can f ind a lot of stuff they give for seeing.
> > > > Most pictures are made by 
> > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/apollo/welcome.html
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/history/apollo/apollo.html
> > > > 
> > > > http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollo204/crew.html
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollo204/
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4204/cover.html
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4214/cover.html
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/cover.html
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