Theos-Talk Archives (January 2008 Message tt00102)

Raquel.
Better buy it from the Theosophical Publishing House.Adyar.
I have it from 1966 first edition bought from our Publishing house in 
Amsterdam, they ordered from Adyar long time ago I think, for I have 
it for half a year.In Spain you will also have possibilities to get 
from Adyar.
Books ordered from internet we have bad experiences, for they let pay 
you and never send the books.
Christina








--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@...> 
wrote:
>
> I found this if anyone is interested.
>   Tibet and Tulku first edition from 1966.
>   http://www.antiqbook.com/books/bookinfo.phtml?o=bookc&bnr=13250
>   I wish I could buy it, but I am too delayed on my homework.
>    
>   Best regards
>    
>   Raquel
> 
> christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...> escribió:
>           John, have you read from the Caves,jungles of Hindustan 
by the hand 
> of HPB,as Radda Bai.
> I think in Russian she had expressed totally, but her niece 
> translated the stories into English.
> 
> Wonderful the story "An Island of mystery".
> The orchest; the gigantic sirka reeds(vina- devi)and the bamboos, 
> some musical fantasy born of the howling and whistling of the wind.
> A horrid fancy haunts the bewildered heads, the image that the
> invisible artists strain the veins and not the strings of imaginary 
> violins. Real fun that Olcott thought that Gulab-Singh caused that 
> phenomonon and had no idea it was natural acoustic caused by the 
wind.
> I would have been there too!
> Also I can understand Barborka's pity to turn away from Caves and 
> jungles and the talentful writings from HPB's pen. Tomorrow I buy 
> that book. Realy great such entertainment.
> Christina
> 
> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> >
> > Christina,
> > Thanks for your comments and reply. Well, I don't want to give 
> the impression that I have any special knowledge of how this was 
> effected on H.P.B. what I say is only my personal opinion. First I 
> hold the view that the Seventh Atmic and Sixth Buddhic Principals 
are 
> both Transcendental immutable unchangable and beyond the ability to 
> effect of even Mahatma or Dhyana Buddha for even they are 
> Personalizations. So what remains that is not of Transcendental 
State 
> are the five lower Principles the Sthula, Prana, Linga, Kama, Manas 
> (divided of upper and lower mind). I believe it was one of these 
that 
> was separated and retained during her Initiations in Tibet. 
According 
> to Tibet and Tulku one thing this facilitated when the ability to 
> communicate to a higher permanent degree with her at all times and 
> to allow the direct use of her vehicle when desired. Her Astral 
Bell 
> that she always heard on the current signaling the approach or 
> nearness of her Masters or a special important message. Pe
> > rhaps it also was a mechanism that made possible her ability to 
> make use of Akashic Records to read and transcribe directly the 
> literary contents she placed in her works. In addition it is said 
> that by retaining the Principle her Oath of Silence was insured, 
for 
> to violate it would cause permanent loss to her of this Principle.
> > 
> > There is some indication that the Ancient Egyptian also had some 
> type of knowledge in this matter regarding the "Shabti" and 
> energization that permitted unique interface with the individual in 
> works that are not Theosophical and deal especially with Egyptian 
> Matters only. 
> > 
> > The depth and breath of the contents of Tibet and Tulku are too 
> deep and complex to explain like this. But my eyes were opened on 
> many, many things that directly apply to how the Masters project 
> their Image and Mind, send messages, make use of a chela remotely 
and 
> so many other modes that are a unique ability of the Mahatma or 
full 
> Adept. When H.P.B. spent five weeks exteriorized from her physical 
> body where else but in Tibet and Tulku are the further allowed 
> details found about this? 
> > 
> > This work will always remain with me and in my library it offers 
> deep understanding and explanations not found in any other 
> Theosophical works. At the time I first purchased my hardbound 
> edition from a rare book dealer I was very deeply involved in a 
most 
> phenomenal UFO Case in 1976, I was experiencing many things one can 
> only read about in H.P.B.'s life --- conversant real time 
telepathy, 
> apportment of objects by the UFO Experiencer, Astral bells ringing 
on 
> a regular basis, and much more! I was looking for something that 
> might explain who was the "Projector", how was it done, how can 
they 
> change time itself? And I found excellent correlates in Tibet and 
> Tulku no where else have I found this important instructive content 
> in more than 32 years. It was one of the things that caused me to 
> find Theosophy many years ago.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > Sorry, it is not the language, it is me.I read it too quickly and
> > think directly, better forget the thinking by reading.And I had 
some
> > one on WinLive messager, so too much.Later when I read again I 
saw 
> you
> > say the right thing they pointed out on page 144.
> > But indeed how they could take off one of the lower principles, 
then
> > she would have been not completed by herself.Possibly she was not 
> and
> > for that they give her the 7th and take off the motive for talk, 
so 
> a
> > part of the fifth away.
> > 
> > Opera browser have problems with this group, for all this 
messages 
> are
> > not there.I opened in my other browser.
> > 
> > i have the book for some months, so I have not read all.
> > Christina
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Christina,
> > > Thanks for your comments. We must have a language thing here. I
> > said they retained One of the Seven Principles of her Economy of
> > Being. I didn't say which one. You through translation between 
> English
> > and Dutch missed my true meaning. But thanks for you reply I am 
> happy
> > that you have read T.T. , I thought if anyone has it would be you 
> and
> > the thought was a truth.
> > > I appreciate your response and comments. My point was to give 
some
> > expanded basis for accounting for some of the peculiarities 
observed
> > in Madame Blavatskys behaviors that create such a negative 
response
> > towards her.This was asked about by members here. How many people
> > could do otherwise if they were missing one of the necessary
> > Principles of Wholeness of Being? I don't want to predefine from 
my
> > own views for others so I hope they will read Tibet and Tulku and
> > benefit. The Tulku are the Sky Walkers and Nirmanakaya from a 
> Tibetan
> > view. I got a kick when I first watched Star Wars and the Hero was
> > Luke Skywalker who had a real Skywalker ( Obe 1 kenobi) as his 
> Mentor
> > (a correlate metaphor for the Mahatma). In my view I was greatly
> > helped in grasping many things one reads of in the History of her 
> life
> > and without the explanations detailed in this Book I would never 
> have
> > had the expanded view on how the "Communication" actually takes 
> place
> > between the Brothers and Blavatsky and others
> > > and the several different modes that are used in different 
forms.
> > You having read it know this, it will always be with you.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > John
> > > 
> > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > Thank you , for you the same wishes and that the world may have 
> more
> > > peace.Especially the people on it.
> > > NASA is realy great and does not earn people write stupid books 
on
> > > them.Here we have Delft and Eindhoven , which technology they 
> share.
> > > Now we produce a new collapsible bookreader, which we can use 
very
> > > easy and also can be weared in GSM's. Easy to take with you, 
put a
> > > card reader or readingUSB stick in it and you have a total from 
> more
> > > than 160 gig to take with you.Very handy.All theosophical books 
> in a
> > > minute .It reads better than from a book for it have a better 
> reading
> > > field and have special light, better for the eyes.
> > > This year we bring it on the market.
> > > 
> > > I have read pag 143/4 - 363/4/5 in my book T and T from 
Barborka.
> > > 
> > > Her emotional expression is one of the square underlying 
> principles,
> > > so normally and (why they take the seventh principle ?),that 
would
> > > bring a disaster to her and the world, they never should do 
that.
> > > That you have read wrong. 
> > > 
> > > She needed to prepare the way for mankind.
> > > 
> > > And the fact of the 7 th principle in the complete human 
> being.That
> > > is the point.Otherwise the human being is not complete and a 
> danger
> > > for himself and others.
> > > 
> > > She needed to show and exercizing the siddhis of the 6th 
> principle in
> > > human, so she could warn us for the danger in them.As we all 
know 
> one
> > > can do good with the Ajna developement, but also do wrong with 
> it. It
> > > is the heaviest power we have.For that she must have had the 
> seventh
> > > principle , otherwise she would fallen down into and staying in 
> that 6
> > > principle and a danger, if no control from the 7 th.Sahasrara. 
> > > The 7(sahasrara) and the 6(ajna) are to be needed to stay in the
> > > higher mind and come out of the lower mind.That is what I know.
> > > But she lived in a time of no developement like we have now and 
> most 
> > > people were very crazy of mediumship and spiritism.If that 
should 
> go
> > > on, we would have the atlantis from the past, better we have 
the 
> post
> > > atlantic period now and the possibility to turn back to 
spiritual
> > > developement, which brings wisdom, wealth and happines.
> > > That is what jezus predicted , the kingdom of god, the kingdom,=
> > > nothing outside, but inside ourselves; the total developement 
in 
> the
> > > human to become human, human with Divinesoul, Spiritualsoul and
> > > Humansoul, Atma,Buddhi,Manas in one person, the UNITY working 
> with the
> > > 4 lower principles, all together.All need to be perfected.That 
is 
> the
> > > way.And happely we have not all the same, psychophysical
> > > conditionsThan we would be like the UNOX sausage.
> > > Christina
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Christina,
> > > > Hi and Happy New Year to you. Thanks for the neat useful 
links 
> for
> > > NASA they are really great archives. I agree with you NASA
> > > historically has had many, many other Nation Partners then and 
> today
> > > also. Like The ESA of the European Union, The Japanese Space 
> Agency,
> > > The Australian Partnership that Tracking and Data Receipt 
Station 
> is
> > > still there now and has recently been engaged in providing the 
> similar
> > > services as it did during the Apollo Missions among others. We 
> also
> > > have Brazilian and other South American Partners in Space and 
many
> > > tracking Stations all over the World with the complete consent 
and
> > > agreement of the Governments of many Nations.
> > > > 
> > > > The entire World sat rapt in utter amazement and watched and
> > > listened to the Moon Missions and the Moon landings. All over 
the
> > > world the media received and recorded it at each and everyone 
of 
> the
> > > TV Stations and Radio Stations of the "FREE WORLD" that 
> rreceivedand
> > > resent the live signal out to their populace! The exception 
were 
> those
> > > behind the Iron Curtain of the Soviet EMPIRE and the other 
> hegemony of
> > > the Communist Ghouldom!
> > > > 
> > > > These Redactionists of history invent strawman and red herring
> > > issues for political agendas even today they just cannot accept 
> they
> > > lost WWII and they lost the Cold War and they will always remain
> > > losers to rational people anywhere on earth.
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, when I posted about pages 143-44 of Tibet and Tulku is 
was
> > > because i wanted to point to what was done to H.P.B. by the 
> Brothers
> > > -----they removed 1 of her seven principles from her and 
retained 
> it
> > > in their keeping to serve several purposes, the result of this 
is 
> seen
> > > in her personality and temperament. 
> > > > 
> > > > Regards
> > > > John 
> > > > 
> > > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@> 
> > > > Cass,
> > > > I think, the NASA( are not only Americans)and also work in 
> > > > company with Swiss can have LOL about all the stupids on 
> > > > earth.
> > > > Why you think you have INTERNET
> > > > Why you think we have solar cells to warm the houses?
> > > > Why you think we have digital camera's and all kind off stuff 
> > > > we can use now and with pleasure if you use it well.
> > > > 
> > > > Then what they go to find out more.I keep silent!I will see.
> > > > Christina
> > > > 
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Trouble is Christina, I don't trust NASA
> > > > > Cass
> > > > > 
> > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > For people want to know more see: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Slides 8x8 made by Hasselblatt camera by Armstrong or Aldin.
> > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/ch14-
4.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > From there you can f ind a lot of stuff they give for 
seeing.
> > > > > Most pictures are made by 
> > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/apollo/welcome.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/history/apollo/apollo.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollo204/
crew.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollo204/
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4204/cover.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4214/cover.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/cover.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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