Theos-Talk Archives (January 2008 Message tt00090)

Mmmmh, if I look around, it seems better to become human first.
Frank

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cass Silva
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: 7-years test for discipleship


Hi John
Your response brought the idea into my mind that 'is our god so pithy that 
we have to be superhuman before we become disciples'. If so, we wouldn't 
need the Masters, we would be one ourselves.

Cass

Augoeides-222@comcast.net wrote:
Richard,
Hi, thanks for your comments. It seems to me that you might not have read 
"Tibet and Tulku" by Geoffrey A. Barborka, read page 143-144. The issue of 
her erratic personality, smoking, temperament and other characteristics are 
deeply intimate to her unique Initiations given her by the Brothers in 
Tibet. It is a real shame so many have not read and deeply studied the 
contents of Tibet and Tulku by her blood relative Barborka as this is the 
only solitary work that deals extensively with the matters that made 
Blavatsky so very unique. Understanding is found in those pages!

Regards,
John

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Richard Semock" <semockr@hotmail.com>
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Reitemeyer" <dzyan@...> wrote:
>
> > Its well known that HPB was a chain smoker and addicted to
> > nicotine and possibly hash.
>
> Richard, WHO says that she used hash?
> As far as I know, this rumour comes only from a New York reporter and
HPB
> has contradicted.
> Frank

All we know about the personal lives of the founders is hearsay or
snatches in the letters they wrote to each other. I read somewhere that
HPB had to stop her carriage periodically on long trips to have a
cigarette and she rolled her own.

You have to wonder if these numerous smoke breaks were engendered from
a simple nicotine habit or if it wasnt a stronger addiction that drove
her to these constant interruptions.

Whatever it was, it was an addiction of some sort that was in control
of her when self control is the basic tenet of progress on the Path.
Now if the Masters were merely using her to convey their message than
that is a different matter and in that case HPB was only a messenger
and not a saint or even a chela.

I like the comment someone made about her dying in Italy at one point
whereupon a Master resusitated her and kept her going after that with
cigarettes. Never let it be said that Theosophists are not resourceful
in trying to protect their leader!

The letters to Sinnett were also suspected in certain Theosophical
circles of being written by HPB posing as a Master.

I would be happy to research any of this if needed but its a known fact
that HPB was a heavy smoker with a dependence on tobacco and this was
probably the reason that schisms formed in the movement.

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