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Re: Theos-World "Imagine Leadbeater trying to teach a child about masturbation..."

Jul 23, 2007 08:42 PM
by Pablo Sender

That is also a mistake.
Krishnamurti never called him evil. Although apparently he was not in 
accord with Leadbeater, he showed respect for him. In fact, he went 
to the church when he died, even although the theosophist didn't 
allow him to enter, and he remained outside all the ceremony.
When K. entered in his old room of Adyar (I think it was there) he 
made a reverence before Leadbeater's photo.
And in one instance that people where talking bad of CWL and Besant 
he interrupted and said: "They were very serious people".
If you read the biographies (not only Pupul's and Lutyens') you will 
find interesting statements about this.

--- In, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
> I don't accept that Daniel.  I am not a male, but I presume when 
the sexual urge is aroused it is almost inherent to address that 
arousal with self touch.  Even babies do it.  My gut feeling is that 
Leadbeater got them to do it to him, why else would K call him evil?  
Makes me want to puke thinking about it.
>   Regards
>   Cass
> danielhcaldwell <danielhcaldwell@...> wrote:
>           Pablo wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> ...I also read that he declare[d] (in his legal trial on the 
> Krishnamurti case) he gave that advise, to half dozen of boys (If I 
> remember well), without their parents knowing it, but only in the 
> it was necessary and not as a general teaching. . . . 
> I know the situation was delicate. Imagine Leadbeater trying to 
> a child about masturbation, in a period with no sexual education in 
> sense. He probably had to show a bit the child how to do it. It's 
> disgusting, I know, and I think his action was an error. But it'd 
> been worst if he had showed it on himself!!!
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> I do hope that there are no Theosophical teachers out there TODAY 
> showing a child "how to do it" ....
> Daniel
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