Theos-Talk Archives (June 2007 Message tt00124)

Re "Phoney Letter" - Secretary point & Appolonius


   I think Pt. Loma Publications has 
a book currently in print about Apollonius 
- Edited by Eldon and K. Small, I think.


Dan writes:


>Is Jake trying to tell us that Mr. 
Judge was so careless and so
inattentive that he would not be aware 
(as Outer Co-Head or Outer Head of the 
Esoteric School) of what was published 
in this Instruction with his own name 
appended at the end?????


   Yes, I think that is highly possible.  
He likely prepared them long-hand, and 
then had someone type them up.  He was a 
busy man.  If he had previous reason to 
trust the secretary, he may never have 
proofed the copy, and never read the 
paper the rest of his life - or ever 
been questioned on this point. In The 
Path, Judge remarks on passing material 
on to secretaries. (Maybe Fullerton, who 
deserted Judge's Am. T.S. later, Ver Planck 
had vested interest in the "phoney letter.") 
Judge refers to his secretaries in the Path:


	"Branch Paper No. 6 was sent out 
to the Secretaries on Oct. 4th.  It 
consisted of two papers, "Soul and Spirit" 
by Mr. Henry T. Patterson, read before 
the Brooklyn T. S. and the Aryan T. S., 
and "Union of the Manas with the Buddhi," 
by Mr. A. Fullerton, read before the 
Aryan T. S." - pATH, Nov., 1890, p. 264 
"Notices"


   In the MLs, it says any average person's 
mind can be "taken over" in a day. 
(the "whites" don't believe in this.)  
I worked on a personal copy of Garrangues 
"Point out the Way" from ULT's original 
mimeo copies - and there are numerous 
places in there I'm sure some secretary 
added material.  This, or similar, or 
worse, is attempted all the time in 
genuine theosphical efforts.  You mess 
up the material yourself by removing eliasons....
TUP puts much great material on the net,
but even they can't stop themselves from
at least minor editing - I see Purucker's
"Questions We All Ask" is even edited online in
minor (?) wording from the original - which
was perfectly fine.  Its like an obsession
that transcribers get!!


    Idea:  Maybe this supposed KH mss 
is one of the supposed ingenuine letters 
ascribed to Judge, that Besant and Olcott 
were objecting to and caused the split 
in the Society?


     Julia Ver Planck/Keightley Was Not 
An Authority.  She had good material and 
not-so-good material like other aspirants.  
If she was one that "applied for chelaship" 
of the 72-73 that Blavatsky describes 
in one of her articles - then she Failed, 
because the only one out of that group 
who was a real success was Damodar.


Vol III Echoes:

Dan writes:

>P.S. This photographic copy of the 
2 pages from "Suggestions and Aids" 
is taken from Volume III of Mr. Judge's 
ECHOES OF THE ORIENT,<


   This Facsimille is not in my 1st ed. 
Vol. III "Echoes."


WAS BLAVATSKY AWARE?

   Well, at the time, this material 
was relative secret, and perhaps it was 
a judgement call (perhaps is all there 
is - you can't ask them)  There were 
hundreds of sincere theosophists perhaps 
"off the beam" in one direction or another 
- how could one deal with it all?  


WHY DID DE ZIRKOFF CAST DOUBT ON THE 
VERACITY OF SOME THINGS IN ES IV & V?  
He was certainly someone who was an 
"authority" on the literature.


WHY DID SPIERENBURG say the "phoney 
KH letter" was one to Hume in 1882?


DAN WRITES: >In general, it is not 
a stretch to suppose that Madame 
Blavatsky read each and every issue 
of THE PATH as it was published.<


    I don't believe she did, almost 
sure she did not - she had way to 
much to do, writing from daybreak 
'til night.  As well.... people and 
Ver Planck have the right to their 
own statements, un-interferred with 
by Blavatsky or anyone - unless it 
gets toooo far outside the aims of 
the society.


SHOULD A WOMAN CONCENTRATE ON THE 
IMAGE OF A HANDSOME MAN? - I mean, 
really.... where is the csommon sense?


"JUDGE THE ACTION, NOT THE PERSON..."  
- This is just BS.  If a person performs 
enough nefarious actions, you know 
what they are like, and Judge the person.  
This doesn't mean than any person might 
not still have the capacity for a noble 
action - unless the inner spark is 
completely snuffed out.


     The real point in all this is - 
that for anyone with any intution, and 
has read the majority of the MLs-Blavatsky
-Judge writings - this few sentences, out 
of context in the ES Instructions V - is 
out of tune with the rest of the literature, 
and just like a big dog turd dropped down 
in the middle of a field of flowers.  Of 
all the literature, this is the only thing 
I can recall having any objection to.  


      - jake j.

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