Re: CW Leadbeater Site
Feb 26, 2007 07:46 PM
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "adelasie" <adelasie@...> wrote:
When we start making decisions (judgements) about who is right
> and who is wrong, whose truth is more true and whose is less true,
> get onto a very slippery slope, and most likely we slide a bit, or
> lot. > Why not live and let live?
Dear Adelasie and all
Adelasie, thank you for your gentle and accommodating contribution
above. Please permit me to offer a few thoughts.
Compassion certainly dissuades us from judging another, particularly
perhaps in terms of who is right and who is wrong. Buddhism after all
distinguishes between absolute and relative truth and Theosophy's
first fundamental proposition speaks of An Omnipresent, Eternal,
Boundless and Immutable Principle on which all speculation is
impossible since it transcends the power of human conception and can
only be dwarfed by any human conception or similitude. It is beyond
the range and reach of thought?" etc.
This passage has always given me pause for thought both in terms of
its expressed limitation of discursive mind to be ultimately
accurate, as well as the unlimited nature of mind in its essence.
Compassion doesn't however dissuade us from discernment where
compassion is considered a natural extension of wisdom and knowledge.
Many years ago, at the beginning of my career in the field of
welfare, it was evident that there were many people who were
apparently compassionately motivated, volunteering in church and
welfare groups. At that time these were the only people helping those
who were then termed the "underprivileged". When government commenced
funding welfare projects to employ trained personnel, we as employees
realised almost immediately that however well motivated and kind
hearted some of these volunteers were, a considerable proportion of
their assistance was uninformed, highly inappropriate and unhelpful
and in some cases such as suicide prevention, potentially dangerous.
Much of the advice from many of these well-meaning volunteers had
more to do with their own issues of insecurity, feelings of
inadequacy and a need to feel worthwhile. Often status and
recognition were also priorities for these hard working souls. The
decisions we had to make with respect to some of these volunteers had
nothing to do with judgement/condemnation, rather they arose from
highly considered, objective assessments of what we carefully and
compassionately thought to be in the better interests of the
disadvantaged client group, as well as the volunteers themselves, as
best as our professional expertise could determine.
I mention this experience to highlight that in certain circumstances
in life, there can be a right and wrong way to speak and act, or at
least a more right and more wrong approach, particularly if we
perceive and project ourselves as an authority.
Bishop Leadbeater, as well meaning as he may have been, was
demonstrably untruthful and/or inaccurate in many of his
pronouncements, whilst projecting himself as an authority.
Authority figures naturally need and attract followers, who
themselves desire to be led. Historically, the dangers of blindly
following a perceived leader are well recorded in terms of the
psychological effect on the follower as well as on the putative
My raising the issues of Bishop Leadbeater's lies and
misrepresentations has nothing to do with judging/condemning him as a
person. He was possibly a sincere individual who thought he knew that
which was best for his followers. Rather it has to do with discerning
the facts and fallacies of his many statements as best as can be
determined. From this, hopefully we can more accurately discern
whether his pronouncements are more likely to be accurate, truthful
and thereby genuinely helpful, or whether they are more likely to be
>From my investigations thus far, apart from some of Bishop
Leadbeater's commentaries relating to the spiritual path, which are
after all mostly a restating of Augustinian/Aquinian morality and
ethics, many of his statements have proven to be either wrong, wrong
minded or sufficiently inaccurate and untruthful as for me to
consider them significantly unreliable, unhelpful and potentially
dangerous for the unwary student.
>From my current perspective and state of awareness, compassion for
this unwary student, which was myself many years ago, as well as for
Bishop Leadbeater himself, is my motivation for raising these matters
in this forum.
To live and let live is not acceptable in certain circumstances. To
adopt this mindset in totality makes it too easy for some of us to be
led along by the nose whilst granting free licence and immunity to
those who feel the need to lead.
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