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Re: CW Leadbeater Site

Feb 26, 2007 04:11 PM
by hari9896

--- In, Mark Jaqua <proto37@...> wrote:
> Re:  CW Leadbeater Site
>     Since it has been proven beyond most anyone's
> doubt that Leadbeater was a pedophile (failed
> probationary chela) (And one should check out his
> black tantric "exoteric" meditation method in Tillet's
> book....) - One has to wonder about the ethical values
> of people who STILL support him.  What does this say
> about THEM personally?  How can they not be so
> disgusted that they throw him out?  They always bring
> up that there is _some_ truth in CWL.  Well, you have
> to have a little truth in any Big Lie to pull it off. 
> There is _some_ truth in any one and any system.
>           - jake j.

One has to wonder about the ethical values of people who STILL 
believe all those lies about CWL. What does this say about them 
personally? How can they believe the word of people who hated him 
enough to lie about and persecute and calumniate him? Dick Clarke 
said before he died as an old man at Adyar that as an ex-soldier and 
man of the world he would have known if such activities had been 
going on, and they had not been. It took 300 years for the 
unfortunate women hanged for witchcraft in Salem to be legally 
cleared. They were only the victims of two lunatic lying girls. When 
will Leadbeater's name be cleared? His own attitude was to leave his 
lying slanderers to their karma. Perhaps that's the best way, because 
talking about it only sows doubt in impressionable minds, which in 
the interest of truth should not be there.
Here is a copy of a letter of mine that was published in another 
thread on this site a few weeks ago:

Re: Australia - T.H. Martyn 

I reject all those lies about Leadbeater. When people secretly desire
to indulge in certain perverted practices but can't because of social
disapproval, they accuse others of them and condemn them for them,
which enables them to transfer the guilt while engaging in the same
by proxy. That's why many of them engaged in or believed all that
malicious and lying gossip about Leadbeater. Leadbeater's attitude
to them was, to leave them to their karma.

Here is a copy of a letter defending Leadbeater I wrote in another 

Why did you drag up all that lying junk about Leadbeater? Do you
believe it? I read the biggest muckraking biography of CWL ever
published and am of the opinion that he was completely innocent of
those charges of being a pervert and teaching innocent boys

In my opinion, what happened was that CWL, realising that one of the
boys was addicted to masturbation, tried to help him overcome it by
suggesting that he regulate to say once or twice a week instead of
every night to get a bit of discipline into it, hopefully preparatory
to overcoming it. It would have been better if he had said nothing
about it. When the boy went home and continued the practice, and his
mom found out and confronted him about it, he tried to deflect the
blame by saying CWL had taught it to him! Really very simple. When
asked about it, CWL didn't say that because he didn't want to
embarrass the boy in public by revealing his faults.

But it appealed to people to believe that the great spiritual teacher
and mystic astral traveller etc was really nothing but a sex pervert
and so they chose to believe what their own evil natures wanted them
to believe and invented lies like the following typewritten letter

"My own darling boy... Twice a week is permissible, but you will
discover what brings the best effect... Spontaneous manifestations
undesirable and should be discouraged. If it comes without help he
rubbing more often, but not too often, or he will not come well...
sensation is so pleasant. Thousand kisses darling..." [coded letter
from CWL
discovered by hotel cleaner]

Martyn's wife said she saw CWL getting naked into bed with a boy who
was boarding with him at the Martyn house, but she gave herself away
when, after describing the scene she said she had been peeping at,
said "There was nobody in the house at the time" That was a Freudian
slip. If there was nobody in the house at the time, neither she, the
boy or Leadbeater were there. In other words she made it all up. Her
husband had persuaded her and her son to lie about CWL out of
because of his position in the TS and perhaps he himself wanted to
believe ill of the great man. Little kids used to follow CWL around
the streets of Sydney taunting and teasing him for being a pervert.
But all these lies dealt a severe blow to CWL's spiritual work and
usefulness to society because many people chose to believe those lies
about him. If there is one thing most people can't think straight
about its the-number-that-comes-after-five.

Personally I found little difficulty in thinking up the alternate,
true explanations for all the imaginary reasons people used to
him of corruption in their own filthy minds. I did this because I
could see from some of the subtle details in some his books like "The 
Devachanic Plane"(1895) that he personally was actually very self-
disciplined and very high-toned. Its inconceivable to me that CWL 
could have dropped away from the high ethical standards of his early 
years in Theosophy to become a corrupter of young boys and then 
regain his high status enough to write a book like his great "The 
Masters and the Path" (1925)

Even today vicious perverts substitute for the so-called fun they had 
in previous centuries of burning innocent women at the stake for 
witchcraft by accusing innocent people of pedophilia, Satanic rites 
etc Many of those accusations are, as in Leadbeater's day, lies
or lunacy.

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