Re: [esotericcosmology] Time and stuff (correction)
Sep 15, 2006 10:10 PM
Unless you use the same Subject heading or quote my original letter, I have
no memory of what I wrote that you are responding to. However, I'll try to
respond to your comments and answer your questions below as best I can...
In a message dated 9/15/06 6:58:19 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org writes:
> Thanks Lenny for your kindly reply, it dovetails in nicely.
> The prototype of the type, every coin has two sides, the scientific
> view cares to look at one side only, that of the physical,and gives
> little credence to the possibility of anything other than "that which
> they can measure". It is there religeous belief to exclude anything
> not physical in nature, and thereby exclude nature herself. If
> everything were just a bunch of chemicals without atributes there
> would be nothing to hold them together, or apart for that matter,
> they could have no attributes. These attributes are not physical but
> spirit in nature, nature manifest, that which we cognise, recognise
> (reflection)as nature manifest and in essence
> is "spirit" "mind" "thought" or any other descriptor you may care to
> I have a zillion other questions, but for now just one
> As HPB writes time is composed of idea, present and memory,does she
> imply that memory is stored within time, as I believe memory has no
> place within the physical. In this context I use the analogy of a
> comet and its tail being memory.
> I have no idea where you found HPB writing that time is composed of anything
-- since time is simply a measure of change in whatever field of consciousness
that change takes place, and has no real existence or fixed metric in itself.
Perhaps, you misunderstand what she did say... But without the quotes of
HPB's statements, and the context they pertained to, there's no way of answering
your question about what she meant, metaphysically. On the surface,
however, it seems that you are taking whatever she said too literally, and are
confusing time as being something substantial -- like box or a field that can
contain, carry or store something.
I also can't see any sense in your analogy -- since a comets tail is composed
of substantial matter, just as are the higher order mental fields of
consciousness that carry memory as holographic wave interference patterns on their
surfaces. However, these fields are not the memories themselves but simply
containers or carriers of the memory patterns for as long as the fields exist after
the death of the body.
Thus, our living memories of lower orders of inconsequential thought,
dissipate after death soon after the Astral and lower Kama-Manas fields decay -- each
in their own time -- while the consequential karmic memories that were
transformed into the higher order spiritual aspects of the Buddhi-Manas field
eventually end up in the Akashic field (as our individual karmic deposits or skandh
as) -- which is close to the zero-point origin of all these fields that are
coadunate (i.e., "entangled" in modern scientific terms) with the zero-point
origin of the initial ray (and subsequent triune monadic field) of our individual
spiritual consciousness. Thus, time at the primal zero-point of pure spiritual
consciousness has no meaning as a measure, since such a state of abstract
motion is in relatively infinite duration, and the only change is circular at
infinite indeterminate degrees of nonlinear spin velocities. This is far beyond
any conception of time we might have in our finite existence
> Sorry another question, What is the
> frequency of time? It is cyclic, so therefore should have a
> frequency, or is time the containment vessel of all frequency from
> the infinitely small to the infinitely big, with the speed of light no
> limiter at all.
Time is simply a measure of change and in itself is not substantial and
therefore cannot have a frequency. The only frequencies (which is related to
energy or the cyclic motion of space) are the vibrations of the fractally involved
coadunate but not consubstantial fields of consciousness that radiate from the
zero-point spinergy of our individual consciousness at the moment of
The only reason that the speed of light, as measured on the physical plane,
is no limit, is that -- as the higher order fields of consciousness ascend from
the physical to the spiritual in higher and higher orders of increasing
frequency spectrums -- the instant or ultimate division of time shortens while the
speed of "light" (in any such field) increases in accord with the equation E=
mc^2 ... With "c" (as the velocity of light in any field) = d/t (distance
divided by time) and with the measure of distance being related to the wave length
of the "light" frequencies in each such field.
Since each wave length is a cycle in each given interval of time, we can say
that light is cyclic while time still remains only a measure of the positional
or spatial change in the wave form from its beginning to its end.
Picture a simple sine wave that starts at zero, rises above to a peak, then
falls below to a trough, and then rises up to zero again -- with the line
through the zero-points at the beginning and end of the complete cycle representing
the temporal measure of its change. The closer the peaks and troughs of the
wave are to each other the shorter the instant of time to complete the cycle
and begin a new one. It follows that, in any such higher order field, the
speed of its light increases (relative to a lower order field, e.g., our
physical field) as its wave length shortens and the time interval of its frequency
With a slight twist of the imagination, it's easy to see how this time
dilation also determines the infinite duration of the highest order akashic memory
field -- where the cycle becomes a circle of spin(en)ergy around the zero-point
of any analogous pralaya prior to and at the "beginning" or awakening of each
individual lifetime -- from the smallest single celled organism, through
all of mankind, and each planet, star and galaxy, to the entire Cosmos itself.
Hope this helps clarify things a bit.
> regards henry
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