Re: Theos-World Re: Here is the visualization quote
Sep 06, 2006 07:48 AM
Thanks, that helps me to understand a bit better. You see a Master as
a being outside of yourself, someone else, so to speak. In that
context, your comments make sense. But what if we accept the idea of
the whole of humanity being one entity, a pyramid, if you will, with
the Christos at the pinnacle, people in incarnation, like you and me,
at the base, and the hierarchy of Masters in ranks forming the rest
of the pyramid? The base is the differentiated outer physical body,
dwelling on the physical plane, and all the rest is interior,
dwelling on spiritual planes. In that sense, the Master, the
Christos, is the composite of all, the "Perfected Man and Master,"
the "Watcher on the Threshold," offering spiritual sustenance and
guidance to any who ask. One way we on the exterior can consciously
ask for such help and guidance is to imagine that Perfected Being in
our own heart, where in fact He is, since the center of all things is
the same center, our individual heart being our center, and the
Christos being at the absolute center of humanity. It is not so much
a matter of disturbing someone else as it is becoming conscious of
our own real identity, as integral parts, hands and feet so to speak,
of the Master, He who has sacrificed all to wait for us to evolve
back to the Absolute
> Well, for one thing, it seems strange
> to me to visualize someone else "in the
> heart" as a spiritual source, when one
> has HIS OWN spiritual source in the heart.
> The goal, seems to me, is to get in
> touch with one's own spiritual source,
> and not head in the direction of
> depending on someone else's spiritual
> source instead. It seems out of character
> with the Theosophical idea of self-reliance.
> I've got to think that any "adepts"
> want left alone basically, and not
> have people visualizing them all
> the time.
Perhaps the word "visualization" is a hang up. Consider using
"imagine," or "realize," the Master as a living part of yourself.
There is a lot of New Age confusion about visualization rampant, and,
while I don't wish to criticize another's path, I see danger in using
visualization as a technique for manifesting personally beneficial
material conditions. That way lies black magic and a lot of Karma to
pay. Anything we do needs to be subject to review, to make sure our
motive is altruistic, not selfish. We can be sure, however, that our
thoughts can have positive effect, perhaps not in the immediate
sense, but in the composite scheme of things. It is always
recommended that the student give help to those in need in whatever
manner he or she can, the more "hands-on" the better. But what is the
student to do when he is aware of massive starvation in Aftica? Most
of us can't really go there and start handing out food. But we can
hold our African brothers and sisters in our hearts, seeing them
happy and healthy, with a sincere desire to help, and those
conditions will one day manifest, as surely as if we had the magical
power to make it so. Because we do, and as long as our desire is for
the benefit of all, what we imagine will come to pass.
As Barbara also infers, visualization is
> something "easy" to do, and people who think
> they are causing big results, may actually be
> accomplishing - Nothing. "Sending good
> thoughts out into the world" - like some
> Buddhist do, is it good? I don't know, maybe
> it is. But it is certainly not practically
> as good as one solid thing one does to improve
> the world, like helping the homeless ad.
> infinitum, etc. - that is Difficult and one
> can see the results of.
I appreciate the dialog, Jake. We can help each other understand in
this way and it seem very valuable to me.
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