Re: Here is the visualization quote
Sep 06, 2006 06:53 AM
by Mark Jaqua
Re: Here's the Quote
Well, for one thing, it seems strange
to me to visualize someone else "in the
heart" as a spiritual source, when one
has HIS OWN spiritual source in the heart.
The goal, seems to me, is to get in
touch with one's own spiritual source,
and not head in the direction of
depending on someone else's spiritual
source instead. It seems out of character
with the Theosophical idea of self-reliance.
I've got to think that any "adepts"
want left alone basically, and not
have people visualizing them all
the time. (Not saying you do!) That
is if any still look once in a while
in the direction of the funny farm the
theosophical world usually is. People
have to decide for themselves, I suppose.
As Barbara also infers, visualization is
something "easy" to do, and people who think
they are causing big results, may actually be
accomplishing - Nothing. "Sending good
thoughts out into the world" - like some
Buddhist do, is it good? I don't know, maybe
it is. But it is certainly not practically
as good as one solid thing one does to improve
the world, like helping the homeless ad.
infinitum, etc. - that is Difficult and one
can see the results of. I don't think anywhere
in Theosophical literature there is anything
about "sending good thoughts into the world,"
or similar visualization processes. Paul
Brunton, during WWII was part of such a world-group,
that seemingly thought they were really accom-
plishing something in their visualization
practices. ("My Father's Guru") Very likely
self-deluded, I think.
Ken Small's quote is likely GdeP, but as
much about aspiration in a general way,
and not as to specific spiritual practice.
I couldn't get a direct statement of
whether or not the quote was actually in the
facsimile - which is usual of Dan on specific
requests or questions - so have to assume
it is, I suppose.
- jake j
<8b. Re: Adelaise: Here's the quote
<Posted by: "adelasie" firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 8:19 am (PDT)
<I am a bit puzzled by the controversy. What is it you find wrong with
<the advice that the student imagine the Master as a living being
<within? While it is certainly true that the student has the right to
accept or reject any teaching that seems incorrect to him, this
particular statement seems very consistent with the body of teaching
<The power of visualization is closely connected with the mystery of
creation. Elsewhere, Judge said, "Consciousness is everything."
(paraphrase) What we think will come to pass. If we wish to create
world peace, for instance, we can create in our imagination a vision
of that condition.
<When we accept the Unity of all Life (fundamental precept of the
Ancient Wisdom) we find that all life dwells within each entity. The
center of every entity, be it planet or star or sun or atom, is the
same center. The Master is the Higher Self, the spiritual Father of
the material child. Recognizing and reinforcing awareness of that
fact by means of visualization can help the student realize his goals
of living up to his own highest ideals.
<On 4 Sep 2006 at 5:25, Mark Jaqua wrote:
> Adelasie: Here's the quote:
> In Esoteric Instruction No. V (BCW 12, p. 696)
> Judge is supposedly quoting KH (to himself?):
> "Your best method is to concentrate on
> the Master as a Living Being within you.
> Make His image in your heart, and a focus
> of concentration, so as to lose all sense
> of bodily existence in the one thought."
Assunto:Theos-World Re: Visualization
> Hi friends:
> I am following the thread on
visualization with interest. This is a
> subject I have filed long time ago
under the I-do-not-understand
> category. The practice of visualization
is very prevalent among
> many philosophical and psychological
disciplines. I hold the
> position that it is best to develop
discernment in order to
> penetrate the veil of Maya. Visualization
> impediments, exacerbating the strength
of our illusions, even though
> at times they are motivated by altruistic
concerns and lofty ideals.
> But, because we are bound, thus, our
visualized hopes are bound by
> our own limitations. It is best to
learn to see truth and practice
> living truth, bringing in the energy
of truth into the world.
> Whenever I raise questions about the
practice of visualization, the
> response I usually get is along the
line how powerful is our
> imagination, a fact I never dispute,
and how we can help the world
> with creative imagination. But so far,
I have not yet found a
> satisfactory answer that addresses
the point - why create more
> thought-forms that add more layers
to our illusions.
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