Beyond Visualizations or Sounds
Sep 05, 2006 07:15 AM
Dear Barbara, dear friends,
I tend to agree with your message below.
We could also discuss the usefulness of spiritual music as a tool for meditation and sel-knowledge.
Someone said years ago:
"Music, spiritual as it may be in some cases, still belong to one of the five senses, though at a lofty or elevated level -- and the aim of the effort is clearly beyond the five senses, be them literal or non-literal, low or elevated".
So, visualization, spiritual as it may be in some cases, still is a form of vision, and therefore it depends on one of the five physical senses, whether literally or symbolically.
The Occult is Occult because it is beyond sound or sight.
Of course, visualizations are no jokes. They will make a difference, and often a dangerous one, especially if personalized, or addressed to personalities.
Used out of the right context, or without common sense and wisdom, visualizations will be much more part of the problem (illusion) than part of the solution (liberation from illusion).
As to those who want to take a step ahead, I guess there is scarcely anything better than taking the practical measures necessary to the natural
-- I repeat, natural -- awakening of Buddhi-Manas. These steps are related to the Prajna-Paramitas described in "The Voice of the Silence". It is also described in "The Golden Stairs" and several other places, as it does not depend on words.
Best regards, Carlos.
Data:Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:14:07 -0000
Assunto:Theos-World Re: Visualization
> Hi friends:
> I am following the thread on visualization with interest. This is a
> subject I have filed long time ago under the I-do-not-understand
> category. The practice of visualization is very prevalent among
> many philosophical and psychological disciplines. I hold the
> position that it is best to develop discernment in order to
> penetrate the veil of Maya. Visualization exercises are
> impediments, exacerbating the strength of our illusions, even though
> at times they are motivated by altruistic concerns and lofty ideals.
> But, because we are bound, thus, our visualized hopes are bound by
> our own limitations. It is best to learn to see truth and practice
> living truth, bringing in the energy of truth into the world.
> Whenever I raise questions about the practice of visualization, the
> response I usually get is along the line how powerful is our
> imagination, a fact I never dispute, and how we can help the world
> with creative imagination. But so far, I have not yet found a
> satisfactory answer that addresses the point - why create more
> thought-forms that add more layers to our illusions.
> > Could someone please supply the original quote from WQJ regarding
> > visualization please? I must have missed it somehow.
> > Thanks,
> > Adelasie
> > On 2 Sep 2006 at 7:30, Mark Jaqua wrote:
> > > Re: Visualizaing masters
> > >
> > > Dan says: "Think about it!"
> > >
> > > - I Have thought about it. It didn't
> > > seem right and made me a little ill
> > > the first time I saw it, and still
> > > does. There is a lot of esoteric
> > > material throughout Blavatsky's and
> > > the MLs, and I doubt there is anything
> > > else SPECIFICALLY about visualization
> > > as a spiritual practice (beyond what
> > > is needed in mental work in general.)
> > >
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