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Aug 20, 2006 09:56 AM
by logos_student2000

You may suggest anything you like.  I don't intend to place any laws
against your free will of speaking out - like the laws in Canada and
France and other nations which prevent people from speaking out about
the events of cetain "don't go there issues".  Remember now Cass, you
can be an impartial historian and non-religious and if you so much as
go there on these particular issues, it's called "hate crimes" and you 
life is basically ruined.  If you don't think something is fishy here
than perhaps someone should be removing the flouride from her water, see? 

For what it's worth, Gary already mentioned what your referring to and
I agree that this forum is not the best place to discuss these things.
However, I cannot help but notice that "something stinks" in not so
much what you say, but in what you are NOT writing (in response to me)
based on what you should have seen by now!  I never claimed to be
chosen and you can chose to pick and fling dirt at me as you wish but
I will not stop my research - I need not any of your pity :-) 

--- In, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
> May I be so bold as to suggest LS, that your desire to expose the
Zionists and Illuminati's would be better served on a forum
pro-zionist and pro-illuminati.  Attacking on the assumption that all
Jews are Zionists is like pissing in the wind, and does nothing
towards you achieving your goals.  Please don't tell me that you are 
acting from divine inspiration or that you were put on this planet to
right the wrongs.
> The compunction to spread the truth usually comes from an egoic
belief in the truth being known by the spreader, when usually it is a
one-sided opinion based on others who share that same one-sided opinion.
> HPB was chosen to spread the truth, not you, not I, not anyone else.
> Cass
> logos_student2000 <logos_student2000@...> wrote:                   
              Dear Gary,
>  Thank you for your kind thoughts and staying true to the path of
>  Theosophy - the path which I at times sway back and forth in my anger
>  to expose the Illuminati and Zionists who control the world today.  I
>  appreciate your insight and you have reminded me that there is a
>  spiritual battle going on here and not just a physical battle on
>  Earth.  Rudolph Steiner mentioned the date 1879 - as the date which
>  Archangel Michael would force the dragon from the spiritual worlds
>  onto the physical plane.  Thus, the Christ flows down to us all from
>  the etheric and a great evil is influencing men in the material.  As
>  you may be aware, the rountable group of Cecil Rhodes and many others
>  were known to have been on the move by 1879 and the forcing of mundane
>  materialism is preparing the way for Ahriman's return in flesh.  Some
>  belive Ahriman is alread here in flesh - but i understand he may also
>  materialise in (decayed light) or electricity macrocosmically in
>  computers (for example) and does not necessarily need to have a human
>  form. I know I am persistent because I want so badly want to know who
>  "they" are.  I want to know what are their names, where do they live.
>  I want a shine a bright light of truth upon these evils ones (at the
>  very top) and this drives me forward in exposing them and it takes me
>  from my spiritual path at times.  This is what holds me back.   
>  Dear gary,  I thank you for reading my posts and understanding me. 
>  You are correct, I am very aware of the Conspiracy but as you noticed
>  I do have many fears and I am still learning.  If you have (in your
>  journey) come across any information, or links which you think may
>  help shed some light on the matter of this Conspiracy, I would be
>  delighted to coresponde with you either in private, or on this forum -
>  whichever you prefer.  
>  I noticed Franks posts had a grfeat element of truth.  I never even
>  saw his posts as pro-Hitler or pro nazi, and in fact, I found his
>  ideas refreshing and these ideas were making sense.  I saw his easlier
>  posts and they were always direct and "matter of fact" and this is the
>  true nature of why I noticed his posts more-so than any others.  But
>  I'd like you to know that I think anyone can see Frank is a decent
>  person who stands up to evil and I cannot judge a man too harshly for
>  caring selflessly for spreading truth - even if the message is
>  presented bluntly at times - as I have also been blunt myself.  I look
>  what is behind the words and even though I get confused at times
>  myself, my intention (as is Franks) is to prevent violence and that
>  means we have to labour with our brains and our hands and possible use
>  what systems are avaibable to vote and do whatever is necessary to
>  keep evil ones away from our dear children, out of our systems,
>  schools etc.  But if we cannot even come to truth on this Theosphy
>  form, if so called Thesophates are calling for sanctions on speech,
>  than I am truly at a loss of words.    
>  Gary, I will put together a list of websites and information for
>  people to investigate so as to bring them up to speed with where I am
>  (as you mentioned) and perhaps I'll leave it up everyone if they wish
>  to add links to this post.  This way, we can stay away from only
>  faction 1 of Conspiracy talk and we can seek the inner truths.  Also,
>  I am at the end of the day not a faction 1, because I desire inner
>  truths more than material truth.  
>  You are a kind man Gary.
>  Blessings,
>  Logos Student
>  --- In, "oceantheos" <gbarnhart@> wrote:
>  >
>  > Dear Logos student 2000 and Carlos,
>  > Carlos, please consider that you may be jumping the gun so to speak.
>  > I wish to ask a few questions and make a few observations.
>  > 
>  > Mr. logos, are you going down the road of Faction One (NWO) versus
>  > Faction Two (KsT)? If so you may be way ahead of most people on
>  > this site. Secondly, are you attempting to guide Frank R. into
>  > realizing whats Really going on, because he is very confused?
>  > 
>  > Carlos, it appears you have wished to "test and examine". If I am
>  > correct in my intuition and hunches than perhaps you may wish to 
>  > sit back and listen awhile. In all due respect, from listening to
>  > you it appears you seem to like to have the last word on things.
>  > Carlos, do you Really know why HPB and her teachers could not fully
>  > reveal more? Did they not say that they did not wish to release more
>  > opposing forces than necessary? Do you know who and what these dark
>  > forces are?  Do you know what they look like in the present?
>  > 
>  > Carlos and Logos, there are many,many people in all kinds of
>  > backgrounds who are perhaps more aware and knowledgeable than the
>  > multitudes in who was behind 9-11.  Now having said that, is this
>  > the appropriate site to go into that? Carlos, and others, just how 
>  > much real life testing and examination are you and others Really up 
>  > for?
>  > 
>  > Theosophy was brought out in order to affect mans consciousness,
>  > that is, their inner knowing if like. It is deeper and broader than
>  > than discussing and learning the outer intrigue that men are 
>  > involved with in trying to contol monetary systems and mind 
>  > conditioning religions and mind conditioning ideologies and wealth.
>  > 
>  > Carlos, let me remind you, you are the one who told me and everyone
>  > else that this site was to also let folks test and examine
>  > theosophy in the real world, applications. Now I hear you backing
>  > away from that position just as things are heating up nicely.
>  > 
>  > Logos, perhaps you may wish considering putting together a list of
>  > web sites for people to investigate so as to bring them up to
>  > speed with where you are? It is evident to me that you are way
>  > past Carlos in understanding the Factions, the U S Federal Reserve,
>  > the intelligence field, the covert operations and on and on.
>  > There are many that know but hesitate to speak. Unbeleivability is
>  > as rampant in those areas just as it is within the realm of
>  > people avoiding the philosophy of theosophy.
>  > 
>  > People have a wonderful way of transfering their trust of authority
>  > cultivated in their family onto their leaders (read tibal 
>  > leaders),unless they have been substantially oppressed.  That 
>  > oppression has not yet occurred enough in the US to wake people up
>  > enough to Really question whats going on in their quick slide into
>  > fascism.  Many know something is very wrong and for a couple 
>  > generations now people have simply blamed the "fatcats" and their
>  > two-faced politicians, not knowing that it goes way deeper than
>  > that.
>  > Now, do we really want to go there or would it be simpler to set up 
>  > another theos-political talk site?  Perhaps it may be simpler if 
>  > Logos and Frank exchanged emails in private?  Is Frank R. ready to
>  > look at some alternatives to idolizing Adolph Hitler?  Is Carlos
>  > and others ready to look at alternatives perspectives to the 9-11 
>  > events?  How deep into these issues do others in this site wish to
>  > look?
>  > 
>  > My personal experience has been that many in my realm of reach are 
>  > rather reluctant and even refusing to go into the realm of shock
>  > and unbelievability as they are mind conditioned by their
>  > televisions, corporate media, government leaders, religious leaders 
>  > and their own lack of experience and knowlege in behind the scenes 
>  > manipulation.  And from personal experience, I can tell you that 
>  > most religious leaders in the U.S. are in the dark themselves and 
>  > are also afraid to speak out for fear of congregational backlash 
>  > which can be very severe. They also know to choose their battles
>  > carefully.
>  > 
>  > Logos, I can add a few web sites to a list if you wish? But first 
>  > please address my first question so that I can get some better 
>  > insight into your knowledge, if you will. If my question is unclear
>  > than please ask for clarification from me.
>  > 
>  > Thank you all for your patience with this lengthy letter and your
>  > consideration of it.
>  > 
>  > Sincerely and best regards,
>  > Gary B.
>  >
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