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Aug 04, 2006 05:54 PM
by robert_b_macd

Dallas, Pedro and Friends,

I was thinking, as a topic that might help us start off a more
constuctive dialogue, we take a cue from Pedro and look at how humanity
has been deceived down a very dark path.  Perhaps Dallas could start us
off with some material from HPB, Judge and the Masters on what they have
to say about Dugpas or Black Magicians.  Perhaps those that come from
other traditions can introduce what they have.  Are there real existing
Dugpas or are we speaking of an anthropomorphization of the dark
tendencies that exist in all of us.   Some theosophical commentators
dismiss the idea of Dugpas in the same way that others dismiss
conspiracies and conspiracy theories.  Is this justified?  Do we have to
know how a Dugpa (or somone actively trying to deceive us) acts and
behaves in order to avoid being ensnared by one?  Without alluding to
particular religions, groups, etc., how do we recognize deception and
how do we warn others, especially the majority of humanity that tends to
follow its own immediate self-interest?

--- In, "pedro oliveira" <prmoliveira@...>
> Carlos,
> Thank you for your suggestion. My question is: why one week? Why
> not ... for ever?
> The world is burning with relentless waves of deep-seated hatred;
> the elderly, women and children are being blown up every day as part
> of a 'tactical strategy' conceived to intimidate the enemy? Millions
> are displaced in Darfur and women and girls continue to be raped
> there in broad daylight; many other millions are starving in several
> African countries; western moral relativism continues to treat all
> these inconceivably horrific events as 'something to be discussed'
> in carpeted halls by highly paid diplomats who 'need' to take their
> countries' interest first before any agreement is tentatively
> reached.
> Does theos-talk need to contribute to the overwhelming mass of human
> despair by continuing to be a battlefield for self-styled
> Blavatskyan gladiators?
> Why can't theos-talk be a nucleus of Universal Brotherhood without
> distinction right here and now? That includes without distinction of
> race, creed, sex, cast, colour, opinion, affiliation to any school
> of theosophical tradition or any theosophical organisation?
> Whom does it serve to continually repeat one hundred year old
> scandals and accusations about ANY theosophical leader, author or
> speaker? What purpose does it serve?
> Can theos-talk be a space of sanity, friendship and mutual learning,
> where everyone is deepening their understanding of Divine Wisdom by
> listening to each other, dialoguing together, contributing their
> very best to make of this list something worthy of the attention of
> the Powers of Goodness and Compassion for the benefit, uplifting and
> regeneration of human consciousness?
> I am ready to contribute to the above and would like to extend to
> you, Daniel and all other list members, including those who left
> because of a previous atmosphere of hostility, a heartfelt appeal as
> a fellow-student of Theosophy.
> Best wishes,
> Pedro
> --- In, "carlosaveline"
> carlosaveline@ wrote:
> >
> > Friends,
> >
> > Since the truce in Lebanon seems to be impossible in the next
> days, it occurred to me we could have a truce here at Theos-talk.
> >
> > For a week, we could make an informal agreement not to make
> radical criticisms of any theosophical or neotheosophical leader,
> group or organization, and to have a rather candid investigation on
> higher levels of consciousness, or on other constructive topics,
> while observing how our own minds and hearts work during that time.
> >
> > I say that because I was nicely surprised by some excellent
> postings among Pedro, Adelasie and a few other friends here.
> >
> > Best regards,  Carlos.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >

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