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Aug 02, 2006 05:50 PM
by MarieMAJ41

In a message dated 8/2/2006 7:32:06 PM Central Daylight Time, writes:

My  interpretation of this patronising posting.

Marie (punch) admit (punch)  you (punch) are (punch) wrong (punch). Admit 
(punch) I (punch) am (punch)  right (punch) about (punch) you(punch).


Cass, I have been dealt a mortal blow, but I remember now, I started it!!!  
Only fair thing to do is to lay down and shut up, like a woman should.

carlosaveline <_carlosaveline@carlosavelca_ 
( >  wrote: Marie,

Thanks for your emotional message below.

Perhaps  my frankness raises some of your semi-conscious frustrations. 

Perhaps  you do struggle to repress them in order to be "spiritual", and 
upon  seeing someone who is open and frank about the difficulties of the 
movement,  your efforts are defeated -- and you go for a personal "unkindness" 
which you  thought was not your style. 

But your repressed feelings of anger are  welcome by me, as I can see the 
nucleus of sincerity and kindness in your  heart, beneath your "sour" words. 

I am not a "possessor" of the truth,  and I believe no one can be such a 
thing, not even Disciples, not even Adepts.  Evolved beings can only "share" or 
"partake" Truth. Be part of it, according  to the degree of their own 

As to me, I am but a seeker  after it; and all my conclusions are preliminary 
and subject to examination  and change. 

I suggest you read my message "To Pedro Oliveira", sent a  few minutes ago. 
It might clarify a few things. 

It was not my  intention to hurt your feelings. It was, and is, my intention 
but to share  with my friends in Theos-talk my view of the movement, its 
difficulties, its  lessons-to-be-It was not my  intention to hurt your f

Best  regards, Carlos. 

De:_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ ( 

Para:_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ ( 


Data:Tue,  1 Aug 2006 18:35:51 EDT

Assunto:Re: Theos-World MARIE'S  GENTLENESS

> In a message dated 8/1/2006 5:19:51 PM Central  Daylight Time, 
> _carlosaveline@carlosavelca_ (   writes:
> Bill,
> I  think I stated a fact. 
> Marie got upset because Daniel was  criticized. She did not get upset as 
> as HPB was being slandered  and Algeo. 
> But, if Marie defended HPB, please let me know. I  will be happy to correct 
> my mistake. 
> Carlos.  
>  Carlos, Friends
> This is exactly what I and Bill and I believe  Daniel as well are subjected 
> to. Things out of context, and  statements made about people's state of 
> etc as though these  things were FACTS, and not just your humble opinion. 
> Please, do  correct your mistake Carlos. I do not have to defend H.P.B. 
just because  
> I am sick to death of your harrassing, demeaning, deleterious,  sophomoric 
> and egotistical stances.
> If you want to  know, I happen to believe that H.P.B. was a human being, 
> best  that the Mahatmas could find, but by no means perfect, as they 
>  themselves have said. To what extent she was not perfect is not for us to  
judge. The 
> message that she brought is what I am all about, not the  messenger. 
Though, I 
> wish I were one smidgeon as great as that great  soul.
> So, cease and desist with your personal assaults of  Caldwell, Algeo, and 
> anyone else that does not agree with you. You  have studied much, and that 
> You used to be a TSA member, now  disenchanted. I too am a disenchanted 
> member of the TSA. I have not  left that Society because it is not about 
> but about the  work that they do. Imperfect, yes. But still, they are 
> spreading  theosophy. I wish you would stick to spreading theosophy, 
Carlos. You are  
> very passionate and could raise the consciousness of many. I even  
> the concern you have about the truth. But do not believe  for one minute 
> you are the sole possessor of it.
> Marie
> p.s. and even your subject line is full of temerity and  judgement.
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