Sowing Gossips....Sowing Dissent & a Double Standard???
Jul 31, 2006 04:30 PM
To Daniel, every section of the theosophical movement is
to be taken with skepticism, if it should not be laughed at.
Daniel takes the Coulombs, or Solovyof, more seriously than he takes
And, of course, he aims at sowing dissent, systematically using
differences of opinions to discredit the movement as a whole.
I will now make some comments on what Carlos has written above.
I like the way Carlos seems to know what I really believe or think.
Take his first statement:
"To Daniel, every section of the theosophical movement is
to be taken with skepticism, if it should not be laughed at."
Yes I do believe that any student of Theosophy who knows about the
many conflicting and contradictory claims and counterclaims in the
broader Theosophical movement should have a good dose of HEALTHY
skepticism. In other words, one should ask relevant questions and
not naively accept or reject any claim or contention made before one
makes a thorough inquiry and study. I also believe in zetetic
See the following two webpages for brief definitions of
See also what I wrote 10 years ago on Theos-Talk:
But I certainly don't believe (as Carlos apparently wants readers to
believe) anything like he apparently simply makes up when he writes:
"....if it should not be laughed at...."
Carlos goes on commenting:
"Daniel takes the Coulombs, or Solovyof, more seriously than he takes
This apparently is one more of Carlos' own "misleading mayavic
Certainly not MY opinion.
As I have stated more than once on this forum, I believe that both
the Coulombs and Solovyof turned against Madame Blavatsky and lied
Let me put it another way: I believe the vast majority of
Theosophists whose testimonies were given in my ESOTERIC WORLD OF
MADAME BLAVATSKY as opposed to the testimony of the Coulombs and
Hodgson as also given in that same volume. And this opinion of mine
was stated at several places in that volume.
And finally Carlos writes:
"And, of course, he [Daniel] aims at sowing dissent, systematically
using differences of opinions to discredit the movement as a whole."
Although I have serious reservations and doubts about many of the
claims put forward after Madame Blavatsky's death, I certainly have
never tried to "discredit the movement as a whole."
I certainly am glad that the Theosophical Movement has survived
(more or less) over the last 100 years and has been available as an
alternative to, for example, scientific materialism, orthodox forms
of Christianity, etc., etc.
But as concerns Carlos' own claim that I am "sowing gossip"
and/or "sowing dissent", what pray tell is Carlos doing, for example,
when he writes in strongly negative terms about Mr. Leadbeater on
this forum. Could it not be said that he ALSO is "sowing gossip"
and "sowing dissent"? A number of Leadbeater students certainly
have expressed that opinion concerning what he has written.
Or in material issued by the editors of Theosophy Magazine, one
Have they ALSO sowed gossip and sowed dissent?
For example, look at the material recommended just today
Take the following articles about G. de Purucker found in the pages
of THEOSOPHY magazine:
Or look at the material written by these same editors of Theosophy
Magazine on Mrs. Tingley:
Is it so unreasonable to conclude that these article might also be
included under what Carlos chooses to call:
Sowing Gossips....Sowing Dissent??????????????
Does Carlos in effect have a DOUBLE STANDARD?
Is he saying it is ok for him as well as the editors of Theosophy
magazine to make highly critical statements about various
Theosophical leaders but no one else (including me) can do so???
Is it unreasonable to conclude that the 1951 edition of THE
THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT still sold by the Theosophy Company, is but an
ongoing attempt to "sow" gossips...to "sow" dissent?
Some food for thought....
I am under no delusion or illusion that Carlos might have a change
of heart and actually try to engage in a cool, calm and thoughtful
discussion of these issues.
But I write for other interested readers.
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