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Mr. Pillai's Testimony about Masters M & KH & His Comments on Coulomb Pamphlet

Jul 30, 2006 11:44 AM
by danielhcaldwell

R. Casava Pillai's Testimony about Masters Morya & Koot Hoomi
& His Comments on Emma Coulomb's 1885 Pamphlet Against
Madame Blavatsky

How a Hindu of Madras Interviewed a Mahatma at Sikkim
by R. Casava Pillai


This rare two part article is reprinted from The Indian Mirror 
(Calcutta, India), Vol. XXV, March 3, 1885, p. [2] and March 7, 
1885, p. [2].  It took me years to find the original of this article.
Below is a complete unabridged transcription of the article.
A few obvious spelling typos of English words have been corrected. --
- Daniel H. Caldwell

Nellore, 27th January 1885

Mr. Casava Pillai, F. T. S., Head-Quarter Inspector of Police, 
Nellore, writes: ---

Having heard that the now famous Madame Coulomb has published a 
pamphlet against Madame Blavatsky, in which she has spoken about me 
as an "accomplice," I sent for the pamphlet, and on perusal of the 
same, I found myself referred to, at pages 45, 49, 50 and 74.

I now feel it my duty, and have obtained the permission of my most 
Revered Guru Deva, to state the particulars regarding my travels up 
to and over the Himalayas and their object, with a humble hope that 
this may, to some extent, convince the readers of Madame Coulomb's 
slanderous writings of the perfect innocence of the venerable and 
much-abused Madame Blavatsky; who has, for the sake of India and 
humanity, almost fulfilled the sad prediction of the Venerated 
Mahatma Kut Humi, who says: "The devoted woman who so foolishly 
rushes into the wide, open door leading to notoriety. This door * * 
* would prove very soon a trap ---  and a fatal one * * *." Vide 
page 95, "Occult World," 2nd Edition.

To begin with my account of travels, I shall have to go so far back 
as the year 1869, when I was only about 17 years old, and was 
reading in the Sydapett Anglo-Vernacular School, the Head Master of 
which Mr. J. D. Voz, a very pious Catholic, who finding my early 
religious tendencies, used to give me some spiritual instructions at 
his leisure hours. I was, at the same time, in the habit of 
attending the Sunday discourses of the Protestant preachers at 
Sydapett and St. Thomas Mount Mission Schools. These discourses, 
aided by the entire absence of my parents --- not to mention the 
easy road to Heaven, promised by the modern Christians, "by the 
simple faith in Christ that he is the Son of God, and that he died 
for us," turned my youthful head, and I was determined to become a 
convert to Christianity. About that time my father happened to come 
to Madras. This was in July 1869, and I informed my father about my 
determination, and he, in vain, tried his best to persuade me to 
change my mind. We parted that night in tears. I went to bed with a 
fervent prayer to God "to open my eyes and show me the Truth."

That memorable night, which I shall never forget --- the 21st of 
July 1869 --- I had a dream, I cannot say it was exactly a dream, 
because I was not fully asleep --- I saw a figure, a majestic figure 
in the very likeness of the Great Mahatma M., whom I have 
subsequently seen on the other side of the Himalayas --- and whose 
portrait is now to be seen in the Adyar head-quarters --- with a 
book in hand, which he gave me. On my opening it, I found an English 
translation of the paragraph in the Upanishads, "Prana or Pranava 
(Om) is the Bow; the Atma, the Arrow; and the Brahman, the Mark" --- 
and He then recited to me the corresponding Sanskrit ---
 "Parnodhanuswarohyate Bramhatallakshyamuchyate" --- and, in the 
most impressive manner, told me that "the Aryan Sages by practicing 
this have become Muktas, and not by simple faith in any person or 
God." He added further --- "My child, do not be hasty, the labors of 
many births alone entitle one to Moksha." On this I awoke, and could 
not sleep the whole night. The result was I had to change my 
resolution of becoming a convert to Christianity. The next morning 
when I went to school, a friend of mine, Chetty, happened to bring a 
tract of translations of the Upanishads (thinking it was a copy of 
Niti Chandrika, of the same size, by mistake) from his uncle's 
library. When I asked him for the Text-book (1), he placed the copy 
of the translation in my hands, and on opening the book I found the 
very exact translation of the Upanishads above quoted, meeting my 
eye! I begged my friend to lend me the book, which he did, and 
subsequently I got one from Calcutta. The perusal of this book and 
other translations of the Upanishads, &c., made me thoroughly give 
up the idea of embracing Christianity, and showed me the superiority 
of Hindu religion over all other religions. My trials and labors in 
this direction, while I was a student, are well known to my early 
friend, Mr. C. Survothum Row, B. A.,  F.T.S.

In 1873, on a certain night, I saw the same Mahatma in my dream 
presenting me a Tamil book, and after saying it was by "Ramalinga 
Paradesi," he disappeared. This Ramalinga Paradesi was the 
celebrated Sage in Southern India, who was then at Vadalore --- of 
whom mention is made in the Theosophist for July 1882. I sent for 
the book, and used to get the philosophy contained in it explained 
to me by a friend of mine who has been his disciple. It was from 
this author that I learnt the philosophy of the Seven Principles in 
Man and the cosmogony of the world, which have of late been more 
clearly, and from the more Western scientific point of view, set 
forth in "Esoteric Buddhism." It is after reading this author and 
the later work of Mr. Sinnett, I could understand the same sublime, 
but more mystical philosophy, contained in the "Maha Narayana" and 
other Upanishads about the "Dhyan Chohanic" solar Pralayas and the 
number of planetary chains in each solar system.

In 1874, I believe it was in the month of February, I had to go to 
Madras, and then, while in my uncles' house, met a very famous 
Astrologer, well-versed in "Nadi Shastram;" he was relating the 
past, present, and future of the lives of my uncles and others. I 
asked him "what was in my mind, and if that would be realized, and 
when"? The object of my thought at the time was the personage who 
had twice before appeared before me in my dreams, and presented me 
with books, and given me certain instructions as to whether I would 
ever attain true knowledge; and this was known to no one else 
present there. The Astrologer for a while considered, and said "the 
object of your thought is now beyond the Himalayas and within two 
years exactly you will see one, but your ignorance will then prevent 
you from reaping the benefit of his visit at the time. But you need 
not be sorry for it, as in your 32nd year, you will see him in the 
flesh, and he will take you under his protection from that date."

My uncles were present at the time and also _____________ , an 
Hospital Assistant of St. Thomas' Mount.

In 1876, when I had again occasion to go to Madras owing to certain 
heavy family calamities, one day as I was driving to Madras from 
Sydapett in a jutka, I was brooding over the fact that the whole 
responsibilities of a very large family had devolved on my 
shoulders, the Jutkawallah stopped the carriage near Tenampett on 
the road-side, and went to buy something in the bazaar close by. In 
this state of mind, I was seated in the carriage, when I felt a hand 
over my shoulders from behind --- the sensation that was produced in 
my mind and body was something heavenly --- so pleasant, and at the 
same time so solemn, that I could not utter a word --- and while in 
this state, I saw him from the window of the carriage, and He 
placing his blessed hand on my head told me in plain northern 
Hindustani with an admixture of Sanskrit --- "My son, be not 
grieved --- you will have better days --- and, in the meanwhile, you 
have my blessings."

With these words he walked away; and I recovered from my abstract 
mood, perceived Him going into the "Parveta Mandapam" compound 
adjoining the road, and then he was out of sight. The Jutkawallah 
having returned, drove the carriage towards the Black Town. As the 
carriage was approaching Neil's Statute, the idea that the person 
who appeared before me, dressed in white, as a Punjabi, might be the 
Sage or Mahatma, predicted by the Astrologer in 1874 --- flashed in 
my mind, and I at once got down the carriage, and almost ran back to 
Tenampett, and entered the compound, and searched for Him, but in 
vain; nor could any one then give me any traces of Him. As I had to 
leave Madras that very night, I could not make any further search. 
He was no other than my most revered Guru Deva, who is now known as 
Mahatma Kut Humi to the Theosophical world. To some of my friends at 
Nellore, I have related this fact.

Between 1876 and 1880, I had occasion to learn the secrets of the 
Adwitah Philosophy under two teachers. When I had any doubts, and 
was not satisfied with their interpretations of the Philosophy, and 
was very anxious about it, on 4 or 5 such occasions I had the good 
fortune to see the last-mentioned Mahatma's blessed face in my 
dreams. When His countenance was smiling and gracious, I would take 
it as favorable, and if not, otherwise. On one or two occasions he 
cleared my doubts by word of mouth.

In 1881, I had the good fortune to come in contact with a chela, who 
was then in the lower stages of his spiritual development at 
Nellore. He is a Vaishnava by caste, and had lived for some time 
before 1881 with a Mahatma in the North, having left his parents and 
family from whom he has now separated himself for good. He is a 
chela of a high order. His friendship with me brought me in contact 
with Brother Damodar K. Mavalankar, F. T. S., early in 1881. Just at 
this time, the familiar and sacred face of my Guru Deva used to 
appear before me oftener in my dreams, and with a more gracious and 
approving countenance.

Early in 1882, under the auspices of the chela I have above referred 
to --- who then happened to be at the head-quarters of the 
Theosophical Society at Bombay --- arrangements were made for the 
organization of the Nellore Branch. On an application from the 
members here, Madame Blavatsky and Colonel Olcott arrived at 
Nellore, and this branch has been opened. While the Founders were 
here, I received, for the first time, a letter from Mahatma M., 
addressed to me and some Theosophists, containing certain 
instructions as to the management of this Branch, &c. Myself, Mr. 
Narayana Swamy Naidu, F. T. S., G. Subbia Chetty Garu, F. T. S. 
(Madras Branch), and Singaravelu Mudalyar, B. A., F. T. S., of the 
Guntar Branch, were present in the Apstani Hall, Madame Blavatsky 
was writing at the table, we were seated, and on her telling us that 
she felt the presence of her Guru in the room, we all looked up, and 
then within a minute or two, a letter fell before us from the 
ceiling in broad daylight at about 3 P.M. There were no contrivances 
or trap-doors to perform the phenomena at the time.

That very day, an hour afterwards, in the presence of about a dozen 
or more persons (both Theosophists and non-Theosophists), the 
subject of conversation was to know a certain date, and then one of 
us (I believe it was G. Subbia Chetty) suggested that Madame might 
be requested to give us an almanac, and another suggested that it 
should be one, not available at Nellore. Then all of us joined in 
the request. Madame Blavatsky remarked, that she would try, as a 
high chela, Jwalkool, was present in his astral body somewhere near. 
We were all seated in the same hall, and a verandah adjoining opened 
to the roof with nothing but the sky overhead. She then called out 
for the chela to make us a gift of an almanac, and within 3 or 4 
minutes one "Almanac for 1882 and Diary Phoenix" were flung at us 
with some force as if it fell from the sky overhead, and this was 
handed to me by Madame Blavatsky, and it is with me still. While 
Madame Blavatsky and Col. Olcott were on their way to Nellore from 
Guntur, after having opened a Society there, another letter 
addressed to herself was received from Mahatma M., in the presence 
of some Nellore, Guntar, and Madras (Branches) members, dropping, as 
it were, from the top of the boat; the letter is still in the 
possession of one of the members of the Nellore Branch.

Madame Blavatsky told me, while she was at Nellore, that 
the "Brothers had spoken to her about me, and that they were 
watching me long before this," and I replied "that I knew it to be 
the case." This conversation took place while T. Vijaraghava Charlu, 
F.T.S., and C. Kotiah Chetty Garu, F. T. S., Deputy Inspector of 
Schools, and some others were present. It was after this that I 
really thought more seriously of the appearance of the Mahatmas 
before me in dreams and otherwise. I then began to concentrate my 
attention upon the beautiful features of the latter Mahatma, my most 
revered Guru Deva, whom I then knew to be Mahatma Kut Humi. It was 
not in vain I did so. Within four or five days I had a response to 
my prayer. The blessed Mahatma from that time forward used to give 
me instructions in my dreams --- not exactly dreams --- but a state 
of half-wakefulness, for want of a better word I call them dreams, 
and that in one of I believe, it was about the end of May --- I 
fervently prayed to Him that I might be allowed the happiness of 
seeing Him in his physical body, to which, after a moment's 
consideration, the Guru Deva replied that I should have to cross the 
Himalayas alone. From that moment forward I took the "Diksha" (vow) 
which my brothers here know very well. After the expiry of about 
four months, and as soon as my private affairs would allow, I 
started for Madras, having clearly told two or three of my friends 
and brothers that I was going to see the blessed feet of my most 
revered Guru --- on the other side of the Himalayas.

I left Madras on the evening of the 11th September 1882 by the mail 
train, and reached the Society's head-quarters at Bombay on the 13th 
September. On that day I was introduced by Madame Coulomb and other 
Theosophists who then happened to come there as "R. Casava Pillai, 
Secretary of the Nellore Branch." On the 14th idem, Madame Coulomb 
and myself both drove in the Society's carriage to the Office of Mr. 
Tukaram Tatya, F. T. S., and she introduced me to him. Mr. Tukaram 
Tatya and myself both then went to the Oriental Life Insurance 

That day in the afternoon, in the presence of Madame Blavatsky, 
Madame Coulomb, Mr. Tukaram Tatya, Damodar K. Mavalankar, and 
another Theosophist whose name I do not know, I received a letter 
which fell just on my head from the ceiling. It was from my Guru --- 
in reply to which I kept my letter in the presence of the above 
persons (except Tukaram Tatya who had left the place then) just near 
the Statue of Lord Buddha over the shelf in the hall. And in our 
presence, the letter disappeared. That very night while I was going 
to bed in Col. Olcott's room, with all doors closed, and in good 
lamp light, I was startled to see coming out, as it were, of the 
solid wall, the astral form of my most revered Guru Deva, and I 
prostrated before him, and he blessed me and desired me to go and 
see him beyond the Himalayas, in good Telugu language. The 
conversation that passed between us is too sacred to be mentioned 
here. He disappeared in the same way as he appeared.

On the following day, the 15th September, myself and Madame 
Blavatsky started for the North. Mr. and Mrs. Coulomb, Damodar K. 
Mavalankar, Mr. Tukaram Tatya and another Theosophist (all in three 
carriages) accompanied us to the platform.

Now I shall have to refer to page 49 of Madame Coulomb's book, 
giving a description of my dress, &c. She says in reference to 
me "before he left he had his costume made, consisting of yellow 
cotton satin blouse, a cap consisting of the same shape as that of 
Mr. Deb, a pair of top boots, and a pair of very thick cloth 
trousers * * * * --- they started very quietly, and Madame begged us 
not to say to any one that she had left. This was to give the thing 
a mysterious appearance as usual." I was "dressed in yellow cotton 
blouse." That is the custom of the chelas. Does that imply any 
trick? Ramaswamy Iyer, at page 67 of the Theosophist for December 
1882, says that he travelled in his "ascetic robes" --- I believe it 
is no sin to do so. I have seen the "Geluckpas," the "Yellow caps," 
wear the same costume in Bhutan, and further north, and also the 
chelas of the Mahatmas! 

"They started very quietly and Madame * * * * had left." I have 
shown above that I was introduced to three or four Theosophists of 
Bombay, and that Madame Coulomb herself introduced me to Mr. Tukaram 
Tatya, &c., and that we were accompanied to the Railway Station by 
M. and Madame Coulomb, &c., I believe this is not "leaving very 
quietly" --- if it is, perhaps, she expected that I should have sent 
an account of it to the papers, or put it in the Theosophist, that I 
was leaving for the North in my pilgrim's dress to find my Guru 
Deva. I do not believe pilgrims ever make any fuss about their 
pilgrimages. Except informing some of my close friends and my 
brothers at Nellore and Madras, and the very few I have been 
introduced to at Bombay (during my stay of two days there) that I 
was going to the North, in the fervent hope of seeing my Mahatma, I 
did not think it proper or necessary to proclaim the fact to the 
world abroad. Further, in case of failure, I should have been put to 
the necessity of telling (2) every one particulars of my failure to 
see the Mahatma.

On our way, on the 16th idem, beyond the Bhosawal Junction between 
the Stations of Chandani and Khandwa, I found the bridges over a 
small tributary of the Tapti had been washed away by the overflow of 
the latter river; and the road for about two miles or so suffered 
therefrom. Then we had to get down and cross the river by a boat. 
Some boxes of Madame Blavatsky containing her clothing and other 
necessary articles were left behind by mistake in the boat, and we 
all got into the train on the other side of the river, without 
noticing the boxes so left behind. After passing the Khandwa 
Station, I believe, Madame found out that some boxes were missing, 
and she got down with her servant, Babula, and things. The train 
left for the North, leaving Madame, &c., behind, I myself traveling 
in a 3rd-class carriage. So I had to meet her again at Allahabad on 
the 18th September (myself having stayed there on the night of the 
17th idem). On my way from Khandwa to Allahabad, between the 16th 
and 17th idem, I had to travel alone. On the 17th idem, when I was 
some few stations south of Allahabad, with only two or three 
passengers in the compartment, I had the good fortune of seeing a 
letter falling over me from the top of the carriage. Madame 
Blavatsky at that time must have been somewhere between Sahagpore 
and Jabbalpore, about 250 miles distant from me. This letter was in 
the familiar hand of my Mahatma, having reference to a letter I had 
sent at Bombay, which disappeared from the statue of Lord Buddha.

On my meeting Madame Blavatsky on the 18th at Allahabad, we both, 
along with Babula, started for the North, and reached Chandernagore 
on the morning of the 19th idem by the mail train.

I there left Madame Blavatsky and her servant near the Railway 
Station,  and crossed the Hughly by a boat to the other side, and 
walked about 5 miles to the Nalhati Station, and then took the mail 
train for Siliguri, which I reached on the 20th idem early in the 
morning, and took the rail for Darjiling which place I reached about 
evening and met Babaji Dharbagirinath that very night just when I 
was in the greatest fix to find my way to the North.

We were both together until the 28th idem. We travelled together, 
both on horse-back and on foot in Bhutan, Sikkim, &c. We visited 
several "Gumpas" (temples). I had to cross and recross the Ranjit 
River more than twice, by the swinging bridge as well as the ferry 

In the course of these travels, just about Pari or Parchong on the 
northern frontier of Sikkim, I had the good fortune and happiness to 
see the blessed feet of the most venerated Masters Kut Humi and M. 
in their physical bodies. The very identical personages whose astral 
bodies I had seen in my dreams, &c., since 1869, and in 1876 in 
Madras, and on the 14th September 1882 in the head-quarters at 
Bombay. Besides, I have also seen a few advanced chelas, and among 
them, the blessed Jwalkool who is now a Mahatma.

On the 26th September evening, we both having heard that Madame 
Blavatsky and Ramaswamy Iyer had come to Darjilling, and was putting 
up in Babu Parvati Churn Roy's (Deputy Collector and Deputy 
Magistrate, and Superintendent of the Dehra-Dhun Survey) bungalow -
 "Willow-Cot," we met them there; and, I believe, Babu Nobin Krishna 
Bannerji and others of Bengal joined us subsequently.

In the course of our travels in Bhutan, Sikkim and Thibet, we had to 
sojourn for a night or two at a village in Bhutan where the Dugpas 
abound. Having staid all day long in a "Gumpah" belonging to that 
sect of "Dugpas" or the "Red Caps" who are so proficient in Black 
Magic, and having been rather indiscreet in talking ill of their 
sect, we had unwittingly placed ourselves in great danger. 
These "Dugpas" or their "Lamas" having suspected that we belonged to 
the other sect the Gelukpas or the White Magicians to whom they are 
inveterate enemies, began to exercise their evil influence, 
or "Jadu" over us that night, while we were taking shelter in the 
verandah of a poor man's house at Darjiling. All of a sudden I was 
disturbed in my sleep --- but was unable to get up, and saw in my 
half wakeful condition that some most poisonous and dire influence 
was coming upon me from two of the Lamas (Dugpa Sect) whom we were 
talking to in their "Gumpah" that day. This influence I was clearly 
conscious of, and saw it attempting to approach my companion who 
slept by, but was kept off by the brilliant glare going out of a 
talisman which he wore on his person. This was a most powerful 
talisman given to him by the Mahatmas, and by which he was 
protected. Myself having no such shield, the dark and poisonous 
influence having surrounded me I began to feel a choking sensation 
in my heart, and was most miserable. Just at this moment I saw (in 
my vision of course) Madame Blavatsky in a very disturbed mood, 
making some passes over me with her hand, and also taking hold of 
her large ring (with the "Sree-yentra" on it) and touching my 
forehead with it. Then the bad influence about me vanished, and I 
awoke and began to vomit, and felt ill for some time, and got better 
by the morning. The same night the above-mentioned "Dugpas" having 
failed in their attempt to injure us by "Jadu," they about 20 or 
more of them with torches and lights came to the place, and asked 
the owner of the house to show them where we were. Between them and 
us lay a slender woodwork. Then the very powerful talisman worn by 
my friend and the protection of our Masters saved us from falling 
into their hands, and diverted their attention. I mention the above 
rather long account as only one of the ways in which we were 
protected by the Masters in that dreadful country of Black Magic. 
Madame Blavatsky --- though at the time somewhere about Calcutta or 
Chandernagore or somewhere else, was not over the Himalayas, and was 
taking an active part in my personal safety. On my meeting Ramaswami 
Iyer at Darjiling, he asked me if any thing very particular had 
happened to us that night (the dangerous night in which we were 
exposed to Dugpa influence). On my asking him why he put the 
question, he told me that Madame Blavatsky was telling him the 
previous day "that we (myself and D. Nath) were exposing ourselves 
(3)   to the "Dugpa" influence, and were in the midst of the 
greatest danger, &c., &c.

I took leave from Madame Blavatsky and my other friends at Darjiling 
on the 28th idem, and took the train for Siliguri at 10 A.M., and 
reached it at 7 P.M. A Bengali Babu --- a tea-planter who travelled 
with me from Darjiling asked me to stay for the night at Siliguri, 
as I was much tired. I slept for the night in the Railway Store-
keeper's house --- a Bengali gentleman and a very hospitable one. On 
the 29th, I got into the train for Calcutta, and reached the place 
on the morning of the 30th idem. I stayed at Calcutta and had been 
to Kalighat that day. Started that night for Gya via Bankipore, and 
reached the place on the 1st October. I was at Gya on the 1st and 
2nd idem, and saw a great Buddhist sage --- who is about the place. 
Here I received a letter from my Guru Deva in the usual occult 
manner. On the 2nd, about noon, I started for Allahabad which place 
I reached early on the 3rd idem. I stayed at Allahabad on 3rd and 
4th, and left it on the evening of the 4th for Jubbulpore by mail 
train which I reached on the 5th. That morning I went to the River 
Nerbudda which is about five miles from Jubbulpore, and bathed in 
the river. On the 6th I took the mail train for Bombay, and reached 
the place at about 10 A.M.

I went to the head-quarters and started that very day by 2 P.M. by 
the mail. I intended to stay a day or two at Bombay, but the 
telegrams and letters that were waiting for me from Madras did not 
allow me the option. I reached Madras on the morning of the 9th 
October 1882.

>From Siliguri and Gya, I had written to my brother-in-law at Madras 
about my having seen my most Revered Guru Deva on the Himalayas, and 
he tells me that he has got the letters intact.

On the 10th October 1882, I visited Mr. G. Muttu Swamy Chetty, Small 
Cause Court Judge, Madras, and informed him and his sons Mr. 
Lalpett, and Mr. Rajulu Naidu, F. T. S., that I had seen the 

On the 11th idem, I saw my esteemed friend, T. Velayudam Mudelliar, 
Tamil Pundit, Presidency College, Madras, to whom also I told the 
fact of my having seen the Mahatmas.

On my reaching Nellore and joining my office on the 16th idem, a 
meeting of the members of the Nellore Branch Society was convened, 
when I informed my brothers how I had seen the astral body of my 
Guru at the Bombay head-quarters, and also how I had been blessed in 
being allowed to see, and be in company of the Most Revered 
Mahatmas ---  the Himalayas beyond Bhutan. The above are facts and 
facts are stubborn things.

Now I shall offer Madame Coulomb a hard nut to crack.

(1) Madame Coulomb says in her pamphlet that herself and her husband 
were the accomplices of Madame Blavatsky in the phenomena of letters 
falling and disappearing. I tell her (she knows the fact) that she 
was present in the Bombay Hall, along with others when the letter 
fell on the 14th September 1882. I have not got the letter in my 
possession. Did she (Madame Coulomb) drop it on our heads? If so, 
why was it not mentioned in her book? Perhaps, the incident was not 
thought to be more significant than my top-boots and thick trousers 
(which I had not the foresight to buy, and carry from Nellore 
knowing that I had to go to the coldest of regions in the world --- 
and which Madame Blavatsky kindly advised me to take).

(2) She was present when my letter to the Mahatma was placed near 
the statue of Lord Buddha, and it did disappear (I had carefully 
examined the surroundings before I laid the letter there.) Who 
removed the letter? Was it Mr. Coulomb? or who?

(3) I have mentioned above how I saw the astral form of my Guru Deva 
at the head-quarters of the Society on the night of the 14th, and 
that he talked to me in Telugu. You cannot say that I have planned 
this for the occasion now. Because this fact was mentioned by me to 
my friends and brothers at Madras and Nellore long before Dr. 
Hartmann's pamphlet and the letters appeared in the Christian 
College Magazine and even before Mr. Ramaswamy Iyer or Brother 
Damodar K. Mavalankar's account of their having seen the very 
identical masters, whose astral shapes they had seen at the head-
quarters of Bombay.   Vide their accounts in the Theosophist for 
December 1882, page 69, and December and January 1884, page 61, 

Did Mr. Coulomb act the part of the Mahatma for me as he did for 
Ramaswamy Iyer over the balcony? If you have the honesty to 
say "Yes," do so. But the story would appear rather too stale now. 
Had you the happy knack of giving an account of this along with your 
description of boots, &c., it would have gone into the market for 
Christian charity pitying a poor dupe of Madame Blavatsky and for 
checking the tide of immorality which the Theosophical Society is 
now spreading far and wide. But now the world will draw its own 

But what about the Telugu in which the Mahatma spoke to me? Does 
Monsieur Coulomb know Telugu? or was there anybody kept in the head-
quarters who knew Telugu, for the occasion? Kindly explain this! 

The letter (alleged to be by Madame Blavatsky) published at pages 44 
and 45, does not contain any date as usual; and I do not believe it 
to be genuine for the following reasons: --- When I saw Babula, 
Madame's servant, at Chandernagore on 19th September 1882, he was 
all right and healthy; and when I saw him at Darjiling on the 27th 
September, I was told by Babu Nobin K. Bannerji and others that he 
had fallen ill two or three days previous to that day. Madame 
Blavatsky says (or is alleged to say) that he was ill for one month 
by the time when the letter was written, and that "she was leaving 
Darjiling within three days," and in the same breath Madame 
Blavatsky says (or is alleged to say) the "little one is a real 
Jewel and the big one is an imbecile, &c., &c., &c." From the 
mention of "the little one is" &c., and "the big one is" &c., one 
would naturally infer that the letter must have been written about 
the 26th, 27th and 28th of September when I was at Darjiling with 
the party. But from the mention of Babula's illness and Madame's 
saying that she would leave Darjiling within three days," it would 
be clear that the letter must have been written about 20th or 25th 
of October 1882. If the letter was written about the latter time, 
there could have been no necessity for Madame Blavatsky (who knew 
perfectly well that I was then in Nellore via Bombay head-quarters, 
and she even wrote to me from Darjiling bearing dates 9th and 13th) 
to write about me to Madame Coulomb (who saw me at Bombay on my 
return). I beg Madame Coulomb to explain this apparent inconsistency.

At page 74, Madame Coulomb having traced me to one of the delegates 
from Nellore goes on expressing her regret for not recognising me 
when I went to salute her. The facts of the case are these: When I 
saw in the hall Madame Coulomb (for the first time at Madras) during 
the Anniversary of the Society in the year 1883, I went up to salute 
her; Madame Coulomb did not or would not recognize me. I reminded 
her who I was --- and of my visit to Bombay and her introducing me 
to Mr. Tukaram Tatya --- to all this she said "she did not know me" 
Then I thought she did not want to recognise me not for the reasons 
she gives in the pamphlet, but for what I shall state hereunder. But 
I must declare that Madame Blavatsky was not at the time in the 
hall; nor did she come down for an hour after this conversation had 
taken place. My brother-in-law, Muruganandam Pillay, and Bodireddy 
Rengareddy of the Nellore Branch, are my witnesses, and their 
statements are attached. Again, on the 27th December 1883, when all 
the delegates were having their badges attached to their coats, it 
was Madame Coulomb's turn to do it for me, and then I requested her 
if she recollected me, and even reminded her that she had "adopted 
me" as she would say in fun "and Dadasahib Tukaram Tatya as her 
sons;" to this she disowned me entirely in the presence of so many 
members, and even spoke to me rather harshly, to which Madame 
Blavatsky objected, and reminded her that she was calling me at 
Bombay as such. This was heard by some delegates. I attached the 
statement of C. Aravamudu Iyengar, B. A., F. T. S., on the subject. 
* * * * 

In conclusion, let me say --- that I am, owing to the grace of my 
Guru Deva, in direct correspondence with Him and have received 
several letters from Him since 1882, and that even so late as 
January 1885. I received a letter directly from Him, permitting me 
to publish an account of my travels. I beg leave to mention that 
there are at this moment several dozens of chelas who are not known 
to the world as such even to the Theosophical world --- nor even to 
Madame Blavatsky. Truth will triumph in the end. There is no 
religion higher than Truth.

(Sd.) R. Casava Pillai,

Secretary, N. T. Society.

Nellore, the 27th January 1885.


I was personally present at Nellore when the second phenomenon took 
place there. The account is to my knowledge correct.  I have seen 
and read the letters of the Master relating to the first phenomenon.

(Sd.) S. Vigia Raghava Charloo, F.T.S.

Adyar, the 31st January 1885.


So far as the Dugpa affair at Darjiling and other facts with which I 
am acquainted, including Mr. R. Casava Pillai's visit to the 
Himalayan regions and his seeing the Masters and some chelas, are 
concerned, I affirm that the information given herein is correct. 
Casava Pillai keeps a regular diary.

(Sd.) Babaji D. Nath, F.T.S.

Adyar, the 31st January 1885.


(True Copy
N. C. Mukerji)

The 1st February, 1885.

(1)  The Text-book referred to is "Niti Chendrika," which was fixed 
for the year's examination)

(2)  This itself shows there was no "conspiracy."

(3) Madame Blavatsky said she should like to be at the attest on the 
evening of the danger at Darjiling)

Quoted from:  
The Blavatsky Archives








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