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Re: Theos-World Quibbling over the meaning of words??

Jul 25, 2006 12:37 PM
by Bill Meredith

Daniel, unless you assert with absolute certain knowledge the fact that "HPB was in contact with the Masters," Carlos will judge your statement as a LIE.

Do you see the difference, Daniel?
The Road Not Taken

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far a I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

--Robert Frost, 1916

danielhcaldwell wrote:

Carlos wrote:

HPB did not claim, she did not assert. She made phenomena
and dozens of persons who saw them gave their public
testimonies. Apart from phenomena, dozens of theosophists had
their own evidences that they were chelas and lay chelas of
various Mahatmas.

So say of that period (1875-1891) that "HPB claimed SHE was in
contact with the Masters" is a LIE from anyone who studies the
History of the Movement.

It is not a question of "believing". It is a question of
recognizing the fact the there are hundreds of evidences about
Masters in those years.

Let's just take one of Carlos' "assertions":

It is not a question of "believing".

Let's look at the word "believing" or "belief"

In the dictionary here are the definitions of "belief":

1. The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or
confidence in another: My belief in you is as strong as ever.

2. Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or
validity of something: His explanation of what happened defies

3. Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular
tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons.

American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition.

Take definition two:

"Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or
validity of something."

When I write that "I believe" ....

I am in effect giving this definition....

Or take the statement Carlos wants to argue about:

"HPB claimed SHE was in contact with the Masters"

One could also write:

HPB stated she was in contact with the Masters.


HPB asserted she was in contact with the Masters.

However one wants to phrase it, I believe there is more
than ample evidence that her claim, her statement, her assertion
was true.

But I'm sure Carlos will probably want to quibble more.


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