THE BOTTOM LINE
Jul 20, 2006 02:49 PM
There are mistakes and mistakes in any editorial work.
The movement is made of imperfect workers. Boris work was just great, though not perfect. I consider the facsimile editions of the SD ( Theosophy Co. and TUP) preferable, taking Boris' SD as an alternative source.
The key issue in the movement is: do people respect facts as long as they know them? Or do they insist in making propaganda of well-known LIES, even after being warned about them?
Best regards, Carlos.
Data:Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:40:52 -0000
Assunto:Theos-World Bottom Line: both Besant & de Zirkoff editions of SD have been SILENTLY EDITED
> Carlos, you write:
> "I am open to criticisms about anything, including Boris' work. But
> Boris' enormous contribution to the movement is undeniable, as well
> as the fact that his edition of "The Secret Doctrine" (which may not
> be absolutely perfect) , is basicly reliable, and much better than
> the Besant's one."
> Who is questioning "Boris' enormous contribution to the movement"??
> But THE FACT REMAINS that Boris' edition of HPB's SD has been
> subjected to INVISIBLE EDITING or SILENT EDITING.
> Again you say that Boris' edition is "much better than the Besant's
> Well, it all depends on what you consider "much better". What are
> your critieria?
> Considering only the SILENT EDITING issue, have you COMPARED all of
> the silent editing in the de Zirkoff edition with all of the silent
> editing in the Besant edition to be in a good position to really
> judge if the de Zirkoff edition is "better" or "much better" than
> the Besant edition.
> MY POINT is that both have been SILENTLY EDITED or as Dallas calls it
> INVISIBLY EDITED.
> And the general observations (see below) made by both Dallas T. and
> Peter M. still apply to BOTH the Besant and De Zirkoff editions.
> Here are Peter's words:
> Speaking for myself, I would rather have HPB' writings as they were
> completed and published by her. I don't want somebody in-between
> correcting the text according to his own ideas of what HPB *might*
> have put if she had reflected upon it later.
> While HPB's says all her works contain mistakes I would not want to
> be the one who decides what they are and corrects them on her
> behalf, nor would I want to decide for others what is a service to
> them by changes I might make to the SD. Even with the mistakes, my
> many years of studying her works has left me feeling confident in
> them as they are. That is not a feeling of confidence I would be
> willing to place in Boris de Zirkoff, though I admire the work he
> has done collating the material for the Collected Writings.
> Here are Dallas' words:
> Those who insist on using the ORIGINAL WRITINGS from which to
> study and grow in understanding are, in my esteem, not being
> dogmatic, they are merely being careful.
> For their understanding they can (in case of The SECRET
> DOCTRINE ) recall that the Mahatmas gave Dr. Hubbe-Schleiden a
> signed certificate ( reprinted by Mr. Judge in PATH Magazine,
> Vol. 8, p. 1-3 ) This certificate stated that The SECRET
> DOCTRINE was the produced under their triple authorship.
> Personally, I have a great pity for those who have made
> alterations and invisible editing in such an important work. I
> include all who may have done this in my mind. On the opposite
> hand: I feel gratitude for those who have offered "corrections
> needed in the ORIGINAL" and that they think will be helpful to
> students, but who have been careful to IDENTIFY and FOOTNOTE
> their changes so that the said student has a choice.
> By what amounts to "concealing" those changes made in the
> ORIGINAL (yet using the Original Title) and thus tacitly
> attributing those new and interposed changes to the Author - who
> has had no chance to agree to them -- they may have blurred or
> obscured some meanings. Just how important those altered
> meanings and changes are, need not be a subject for restudy if
> one deals with the ORIGINALS to begin with.
> Bottom Line: BOTH Besant & de Zirkoff editions of SD have been
> SILENT EDITED.....
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